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Advice on Possible Purchase - New Holland B95

Swetz

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Tinkerer, I do not know that the boom leaks down at this point...Will test when I go to it.

Willie B, I do not think there are any leaks...at least that is what I am told. Below are some youtube videos that were sent to me by the seller. The machine looks to perform well. I have watched the one where he is working the unit several times, and I do not see any play at the swing post as he loads the hoe...As soon as I get a chance, I will put my eyes on it...shooting for next friday.

Thanks for the comments guys!

https://youtu.be/kPabQi0qQzw

https://youtu.be/9EwBg2ZA12Y

https://youtu.be/8b1vR5_f5A4
 

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Spend some time on this before you buy it. Operating a backhoe for an hour during a test drive is reasonable to me. I bought one that worked great for the 20 minutes I tested it at sellers farm. Got home with it and discovered that the clutches would slip after 25 or 30 minutes of use. Had I operated it longer this would have been discovered BEFORE I bought it.
 

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Just a possibility on the boom lock. When I have mine in the unlocked position it remains that way with the engine running. When I shut the machine down it will close regardless of the switch position. It could have simply had the photos taken with the switch on and the engine running.

My 575 boom will drift down if I don't lock it while it's al the way back. Having a working boom lock is important in my opinion.
 

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Just a possibility on the boom lock. When I have mine in the unlocked position it remains that way with the engine running. When I shut the machine down it will close regardless of the switch position. It could have simply had the photos taken with the switch on and the engine running.

My 575 boom will drift down if I don't lock it while it's al the way back. Having a working boom lock is important in my opinion.
Our 675s were automatic as well, but the LB series went to a manually operated cable. Not sure why as the type you have worked good.
 

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Hello All,
So today I went and looked at the new holland b95. I must admit I was a bit disappointed! I have worked on units with more hours with less wrong. That being said, it ran well, had plenty of power to the hydraulics, the fluids looked good, most pins had very little play. It was also dry underneath.

On the down side, the ac compressor did not come on when turned on, the diff lock is screwed up and was hard to shut off (remember the comment about the pedal being real high. The parking brake didn't work, and the caliper was loose. The boom lock didn't work. several cylinders were weeping...not outright leaking. The locking mechanisms for the windows were broken and tied closed. The brake light was on, but the brakes did work well...I am thinking it was fluid level. The engine cover on the right side was all busted up and the lock was broken. The l/r tire is smoked big time, all others are fine. Both outer tie rod ends are badly worn. The front wheels had some top/bottom play (ball joints). The extend-a-hoe had tons of play. The passenger side wear plate at the bottom is outright missing. The upper plate is there but has broken bolts.

so, all the above stated, it is a decent unit but it has issues. At $25K, it might be ok, but at $30k, no deal. The funny part is, they did not try to close a deal. They showed it to me, and I said thank you, and left, with out any pressure to purchase it.
 

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You did the right thing Swetz. $30,000.00 should buy something nicer than that. John Deere 410E's sell for less than that.
Unless he pressure washed that thing the boom pins were way drier than mine would ever be.I'm guessing there was some pins and bushings needing replacement to.
Keep looking and you will find what you want. The way the stock market is going the offerings may increase dramatically in the near future.
 

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Thanks for the reply Tinkerer.
I didn't see the oil until I was there. I do believe it was pressure washed. Maybe the pics and video was done just after the pressure wash. Believe it or not, all pins were tight in the loader, and the hoe had minimal play except for the extend-a-hoe that was outright missing the wear pad on the r/side. My impression of this machine is that the original owner purchased it and just ran it, and thats it...as things broke or stopped working, that is how they were left until it needed a bunch of work, and off it went to be sold. In other words no maintenance and repair. 1700 (verified the clock worked) hours and it needs a bunch...very disappointing, but you guys warned me about the varying condition, and not to focus on the hours, that is why I gave it the once over. I must confess, I loved the operation of the pilot controls and the extend-a-hoe control was right on the joysticks...real sweet setup. I would still consider it at $25k but I dont feel that is possible, so onward to find some to test. I do see a 410e on facebook. I may check that one out in a couple of weeks. It is near my place in PA so shipping would be a lot less (hopefully)
 

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I can pass along another tip on these. If the brake cylinders have been leaking for a while the rear axle oil will be overfilled.

My 575 showed up with the brakes not working even though the seller told me they were okay. The fluid would leak out overnight and the rear end was 5 gallons overfilled.
 

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NH575E, Thanks for the tip. How long have you owned your New Holland 575E? I seem to recall a post not that long ago about the seller saying the brakes were good but didnt work upon delivery...perhaps that was you. I am not sure how much difference there is between the 575E and a 675E, but there is one for sale locally that I want to look at. Says it has a little over 700 hours on it, and all the pics were taken indoors, so I am hoping it was kept indoors all its life...we shall see. It may be gone before I get a chance to give it a look. Question, Is there a drive shaft from the trans to the rear...In other words, would you have to split your tractor to fix the trans or is it like the B series that have a trans that can be removed for service without splitting?
 

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Some Pics:
In the first you can see the bolts missing for the extend-a-hoe. Next you can see the L and R outrigger cylinders. All other backhoe cylinders were similar. Front loader cylinders were all dry. The last is of the boom lock. It looks like the lock is wedged on the teardrop for the pin. The cable seemed to pull but it didnt move.
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The missing bolts are for the Teflon bushings hence the lose extend boom. Earlier boom locks were not cable and worked way better. Like I said, our cable ones never worked right
 

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Shame that one wasn't as nice as you expected Swetz! It sounds to me like 25K may still be high on it, if they were willing to talk. The place I went didn't really care if I bought it or not either and there was minimal negotiating room. May you have better luck next time!
 

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Thanks aighead! I just found another New Holland. I want to look at it tomorrow but it is supposed to rain, so I am not so sure. I started another thread for that one.
 

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Be aware that sometimes the seller knows the value of a flawless machine, and prices the of imperfect machines they offer to reflect that.

I want to pay as little as I can. I look for machines priced low. sometimes low priced machines have flaws. Often, I am disappointed at the condition of those I drive long distance to look over.
 

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Willie B, I dont mind flaws, but damn, with 1700 hours this thing had a lot! Like I said before, it was a tight machine and the trans worked well. Engine ran well as well but was down to the bottom on the dipstick..I think if I were going to sell a machine, I would at least make sure the fluid was topped! If it were my machine, it would have never gotten that low before I filled it.
 

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The key phrase is "If it were my machine". Plenty of machines are not under direct control of their owners.
There is a rental company nearby, it is owned by people 50 miles away. I'd guess the employees are picked up each day from a drug rehab facility. They don't appear to have plumbing they could use, don't get paid much. I rarely see an employee twice. They routinely send machines out on rental utterly non functional.
A local excavator/logger had a big crew, would buy 10 bulldozers at once. Near new machines were in deplorable condition.

I'm only saying a price too good to be true probably isn't. Sellers sometimes outright lie about condition.
 
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