Fat Allis Next Surgery

DMiller · Feb 16, 2020

Finally enough battery
3” of 3” sch 40 spacer stud is 12” long 2” thrd one end 4” other, have another spacer 5 1/2” long waiting should it pull hard
Still more pipe available

DMiller · Feb 17, 2020

More bored and still anxious
Got the right rail balled up and on a pallet for later maneuvering brought spare cinal shaft to shop
Set old hard nose on trailer then rain set in.

DMiller · Feb 17, 2020

So UPS arrives and I unbox the ‘used’ pump and line
Well the line is definitely ‘used’ the pump which is replacing the one I paid for and UPS lost does Not appear ‘used’
Full on oil and clean Clear as virgin feet on pump no wear marks.

Gonna have to give this ol boy a 5+ on this

kshansen · Feb 17, 2020

Awful nice looking for a "used" pump. We had some of them manually operated pumps but preferred the one with the electric cord and little toggle switch!

crane operator · Feb 17, 2020

I worked years back with one that was air over hydraulic with a foot pedal. It was pretty nice if you had air. Kinda looked like this:

Ronsii · Feb 17, 2020

crane operator said:
I worked years back with one that was air over hydraulic with a foot pedal. It was pretty nice if you had air. Kinda looked like this:

Yeah, I got one of the import red air ones... is 1000X better than a hand pump in most situations... there are still a few times I will hand pump depending on what is going on and how precise things need to be.

DMiller · Feb 18, 2020

When poor have poor ways hand pump is all could do!!

Ronsii · Feb 18, 2020

DMiller said:
When poor have poor ways hand pump is all could do!!

Oh I hear ya' I worked with the same hand pump for many years... bu when I had to start pulling in a number of bushings on the excavators I started looking around and found one of these for about a hundred bux I couldn't refuse it

DMiller · Feb 18, 2020

Good news and not so good. Stud is holding up so far, had close to Max on it for OVER an hour after correct a few leaks, still not budging, Heated the Frame Eyes smoking hot, wailed on it with 4 & 10 pounders, NEVER tried to budge. Down to suggested point, Hack frame and do it 'The Easier Way'. Just HATE that thought but no other option at this time.

kshansen · Feb 18, 2020

I did like the hand powered pumps for installing bushings you could have a good feel for when things started to bind where the electric one would be going a little fast.

Also one problem with the electric pump was the toggle switch was spring loaded to off in on direction and steady on in the other direction. Once or twice had someone pushing down on the switch see something was going wrong and they yanked hand back and accidentally shifted it to steady on! NOT GOOD! I always told guys to only use tip of index finger to push down on switch. That way if you jump back 95% of the time you would not accidentally shift it to full on!

Ronsii · Feb 18, 2020

I like the air powered one for 'straightening' things

last thing was a dump trailer that 'got loose' and flipped

(not mine or me) main damage was it bent the back doors apart a couple inches... so I put a chain around the tops and put the pullback ram on it and let my foot do the work

I could bend it in then release while looking at how much more to 'bend' then put the pedal to the metal again

made quick work out of that job!!!

DMiller · Feb 19, 2020

Well likely today to start hacking thru the frame to cut away tail of Truck, end roller and bolting block came out no issues.
Not a grunt off bolt at all. May salvage Sprocket ring off Old one and replace the work out rink on the replacement shaft while at it. Will have to cut away a section of the reinforcing strap down side of truck to get to the base frame, will drill and tap thru that cut out as a Welding clamp fixture.

DMiller · Feb 19, 2020

Opted for a straight cut
Will use roller bolting block and the outside reinforcing band cut out for alignment clamps
Welding not exactly stupendous but this is a no pressure load region
Should be fine with what I can manage.

Was not going to make much longer.

DMiller · Feb 25, 2020

Got a taste further today. After the rock work Sunday I took a day off to leave the sore settle down, then got into a mood early this morning. Manhandled this into place, and is fixed in place currently. Have to disassemble the outer support repack that bearing and get the frame section prepped to weld back in place.

DMiller · Feb 27, 2020

Took outer support apart, Was not shocked to find issues. Had the unit off the grenade, bearing OK but seal package destroyed so off to the derelict.
Out of Four outer support assemblies pieced together a good one
Letting adhesive set up on the steel seal to the internal gasket then can set to stub end.

DMiller · Feb 28, 2020

End support fully assembled this morning, then went to cutting the weld Vs and set the rear horn back on the stub. Have Fish fry to go to tonight, wife gets home at 3 so figured time to stop, will still be there awaiting as weekend finishes out. Have two appointments Mon and Tues otherwise may get somewhere on this by then.

Metalman 55 · Feb 28, 2020

Bolt & weld both I'am assuming? Looking good!

DMiller · Feb 28, 2020

Rear roller straddles weld Allis uses a bolting block inside frame.
Once weld flanges will pull side plate and weld face Then grind flat reinstall side plate and weld it leaving the bolts.
Low stress region from what I come to understand outer support to eliminate final shaft flexing.

Welder Dave · Feb 28, 2020

Would be nice to have Mig for a root pass. Could fill the gap and get full penetration easier. I'm guessing you're going to preheat it a couple hundred deg's.

DMiller · Feb 29, 2020

Gonna preheat with rosebud just not to color
My Miller 210 is a wire feed .035 wire in it and will be closing the gap with that
Likely finish 7018 off my suitcase unit. Outer strap will get MiG’d as cleaner.

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