Is Komatsu one of the top 4 oem's in skidsteers?Good point. Where is NH, CASE, TK, Komatsu? I think to be fair you conduct the test with at least the top 4 OEMs, not pick and chose which machine they want to compete against and in what event.
Is Komatsu one of the top 4 oem's in skidsteers?Good point. Where is NH, CASE, TK, Komatsu? I think to be fair you conduct the test with at least the top 4 OEMs, not pick and chose which machine they want to compete against and in what event.
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Tigerotor77w, the ROC is the percentage of Roll Over Capacity(or rated operating Capacity, whichever) wheather is be usually 30% or 50%.
Thanks for the reply -- I'm aware of this (though it's 35%, not 30%). I was asking him to clear up his statement.
Is Komatsu one of the top 4 oem's in skidsteers?
Out of curiosity, and so I understand correctly, do you mean that "It didn't perform well, but its ROC was lower" or that "It didn't perform well, but even so, I think it looked abysmal"?
No their not. I think everyone who fields a skid steer or CTL should have been included in the demo. If not at least the top 4: NH, BC, CASE, and CAT. Perhaps I should have been more clear.
My point was that the 297C had the lowest ROC of the three at about 4,200lbs. I know that all machines will lift more than their ROC but I guess it doesn't impress me too much that the Deere could likt 6200lbs. If you look at their pin sizes they aen't any bigger than their skids. When you give a machine too much capability people start to break them. I'm also sure that the 297C and the T320 could handle any normal pallet of hardscape or sod just fine. How much dirt can you fit into an 82" bucket? Not 6200lbs worth and probably not 4200lbs either.
My point was that the 297C had the lowest ROC of the three at about 4,200lbs. I know that all machines will lift more than their ROC but I guess it doesn't impress me too much that the Deere could likt 6200lbs. If you look at their pin sizes they aen't any bigger than their skids. When you give a machine too much capability people start to break them. I'm also sure that the 297C and the T320 could handle any normal pallet of hardscape or sod just fine. How much dirt can you fit into an 82" bucket? Not 6200lbs worth and probably not 4200lbs either.
yea, I agree--------did you ever try a Deere skidloader?No their not. I think everyone who fields a skid steer or CTL should have been included in the demo. If not at least the top 4: NH, BC, CASE, and CAT. Perhaps I should have been more clear.
yea, I agree--------did you ever try a Deere skidloader?
can you let me know how demo goes and how it compairs to the asvI have a ASV RCV and we routinely lift its max capacity or use its max pushing power. We have a grapple bucket for it and lift things like tree roots and concrete where you are at your tipping limit. Also if you are on any slope the higher your tipping limit the more you can load at a time on uneven ground. We also push a lot of gravel piles and dirt at the site for leveling, or cutting out hard clay. Our machines are continually used at their max power range.
We are demoing a new CT332 on tuesday for digging a basement and doing some lot grading. **we are digging the basement with the hydraulic excavator and trimming in the level with the skid steer.** I want to do my own demo on this machine.
You are still paying for the pilots in other machines even though they are considered "standard equipment", however, Deere's are actually EH (electric over hydraulic) controls, same controls that Cat uses in their C series skid loadersAnyone worth their salt knows you can rig any series of tests to reflect any outcome you want, that's why the thing is bs to me. and so is paying extra for pilot controls when they are standard in other machines.
You are still paying for the pilots in other machines even though they are considered "standard equipment", however, Deere's are actually EH (electric over hydraulic) controls, same controls that Cat uses in their C series skid loaders
they are from the same supplier, as far as I know---they are in all C series Cat skidloadersYou mean Cat has EH controls similar to Deere.
they are from the same supplier, as far as I know---they are in all C series Cat skidloaders
Anyone worth their salt knows you can rig any series of tests to reflect any outcome you want, that's why the thing is bs to me. and so is paying extra for pilot controls when they are standard in other machines.