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A few projects I have done recently

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I've said for years that operators are like peanut butter, they come in smooth, crunchy, or extra crunchy. Just the way it is and has been for years.

Forklift operators only come in one flavor - extra crunchy..
 

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Forklift operators only come in one flavor - extra crunchy..

I think you should revise your statement...

Anyone and everyone that wanders onto the job site and hops on the forklift only come in one flavor - extra crunchy...

I don't think there is a single piece of equipment that gets abused more on a job by people that have no business being anywhere near a forklift/telehandler....
 

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So we rented one of these little trucks for a local job where we needed to shift some shot rock and around 3K yards of dirt.

The bed holds around 8 loose CY's and the truck could handle a bigger bed. If we had one there would be some heavy channel cheater boards around the top.

All in all an impressive little artic. Plenty of power from the 4 cylinder Cummins. The cab was comfortable and the ride not to bad considering the seat is hanging over the front axle.

This one has the rotating dumper which we didn't use but I could see where it would could come in as handy as a shirt pocket backfilling a trench in the street with stone or dumping backfill behind curbs.

Dump cycle time is fast with an auto neutral kick out when you raise the bed. Hit the bed down and mash the accelerator and the truck takes off as the bed goes down. Pretty decent cycle times.

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So we rented one of these little trucks for a local job where we needed to shift some shot rock and around 3K yards of dirt.

The bed holds around 8 loose CY's and the truck could handle a bigger bed. If we had one there would be some heavy channel cheater boards around the top.

All in all an impressive little artic. Plenty of power from the 4 cylinder Cummins. The cab was comfortable and the ride not to bad considering the seat is hanging over the front axle.

This one has the rotating dumper which we didn't use but I could see where it would could come in as handy as a shirt pocket backfilling a trench in the street with stone or dumping backfill behind curbs.

Dump cycle time is fast with an auto neutral kick out when you raise the bed. Hit the bed down and mash the accelerator and the truck takes off as the bed goes down. Pretty decent cycle times.

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Dang that is a cute looking little dumper! The size of tires looks like it would almost walk on water!

We had a little bit bigger artic at the quarry for a few months some years ago. I actually got to run it some hauling material while digging a catch basin and stocking some stone. Don't think I learned more than half of the little tricks it could do. The thing that did throw me off a bit was backing it up. See I was used to ridge frame truck like 769D Cats where you could look out the right rear view mirror and see right where the right rear was going. On the 795 all you would see is the side of the dump body and the rear axle was out of view!

Here's the one I drove:
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And Just for a comparison here is a 769D sitting next to the 735:

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What are the differences between a rigid frame vs articulating dump? What drives the choice between the two? The big mining trucks seem to be all rigid frame. So capacity doesn't seem to be the point. Tighter turning circle ? Or all wheel drive with rigid axles ?
 

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What are the differences between a rigid frame vs articulating dump? What drives the choice between the two? The big mining trucks seem to be all rigid frame. So capacity doesn't seem to be the point. Tighter turning circle ? Or all wheel drive with rigid axles ?

Well I would say the conditions they work under and material they haul would be important points.

Other than the PayHaulers I'm not recalling any all wheel drive ridged frame trucks and only had very brief acquaintance with those!

The little time I spent playing with the 735 gave me the idea they would be good in rough unimproved conditions. I do know that the 769D in the second picture could be a challenge to keep from getting stuck in poor traction condition especial snow! I know there were times it could get stuck in snow I could have rode my sidecar through! Plus the sidecar was easier to push if it did get stuck!
 

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Well I would say the conditions they work under and material they haul would be important points.

I agree with more emphasis on the working conditions. Artics are better suited for rough, wet, muddy working conditions. Rigid frames are larger with higher tonnage capacity but need a nice hard smooth surface to get the most out of them. Artics for constructions sites and rigid frames for quarries as a rule of thumb, not always but most of the time.

Every now and then on a large mass rock job I'll see rigid frame trucks being loaded by mining shovels. Actually the site the little Hydrema is on was a rock hill and they used rigid frames and a big Liebherr front shovel to move the shot rock.

Artics will operate in some rough conditions but are limited capacity wise compared to the larger rigid frames.

I got to operate the little Hydrema this afternoon, shifted around 40 loads of rock and dirt. The more I run it the more I like it but it does need a higher capacity bed.;)
 

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I'd never seen a hydrema until last week. I took a picture of it because I though it was kind of a unique unit. Then I open up HEF, and I find out that they are everywhere.


Cab model number sticker looked very "CAT" like to me, maybe that's by design. Cab looked like it had great visibility, and really good floatation with those big tires.

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I'd never seen a hydrema until last week. I took a picture of it because I though it was kind of a unique unit. Then I open up HEF, and I find out that they are everywhere.


Cab model number sticker looked very "CAT" like to me, maybe that's by design. Cab looked like it had great visibility, and really good floatation with those big tires.

Craneop the paint color is darn near Cat yellow too. However that's about all the similarities as the inside dash and switches are very "European". My thoughts are Hydrema and Cat have some sort of sales and marketing agreement but who knows.

Local Cat dealer obviously rents them and a sales dealer as well. I got to run it today as a "fill in" :oops: trying to get that job finished up.

The little truck is impressive but the price tag to buy pushes it out of the making sense on paper calculations for our operation. Rental rate is $2800 a week plus all the fees which puts it around $3100 for a week which is close to hiring an on road truck at $85 per hr.
 

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Rental rate is $2800 a week plus all the fees which puts it around $3100 for a week which is close to hiring an on road truck at $85 per hr.

The worst part of that number is that the road truck brings a driver and buys his own fuel.

They were using the hydrema on the project I was on, because of room and terrain difficulties on site. No room for a big artic, too steep for a standard road dump truck. The day I was there- they were tandem running back and forth with a old single axle dump with a 10-12' bed, and the old dump was making just as many trips, and hauling more each round, and would be a much cheaper machine.

But I know in other spots on this site with the rainy conditions this spring, the hydrema was the only thing moving dirt away from the excavators.
 

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Seems like for what your getting a loader will do the job and be more versatile
 

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The worst part of that number is that the road truck brings a driver and buys his own fuel.

No doubt if it was just shifting dirt back and forth. We had about 500 CY's of shot rock that had to be placed on a bench off the side of the master development. An on road truck wouldn't have done it - I left that part out...:rolleyes:

The little truck worked well for what we needed and it went off rent today as we're headed to pick up our new to us L9000 tomorrow.:D
 

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As the Tire Store turns.

Excavating the storm water detention system in the front parking lot. 30" cut from existing top of asphalt, not a big excavation. A friend and trucking owner had a place for the dirt to go close by so it was a win/win.

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The system is designed to have Mirafi non-woven fabric on the bottom and up the sides with a 6" layer of sand on the bottom, 1.5' of #4 crushed limestone with an 1" of #57 crushed limestone on top. The fabric doesn't wrap burrito style, the pervious concrete pours directly on top.

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In between the #24 stone layer there is a 4" HDPE perf. pipe that dumps into a 6" SDR 35 line that runs into an existing storm inlet. The idea behind the design is the parking lot water goes through the pervious concrete and fills up the sand/gravel layer, slowly leaching out through the 4" HDPE, then to a 6" SDR 35 and finally dumping into a storm inlet.

Personally I don't like the idea as it will saturate the surround soil and possibly compromise the sub-base soils. The 4" HDPE is designed to be 21" off the bottom of the excavation which means 21" of water has to soak into the surrounding soil.

We don't paid to design it, we get paid to put it in the ground..:cool:

Also on this job was a short run of 15" HDPE and a grate inlet. Here's the head scratching part - the existing inlet we tied into was a standard single wing inlet draining this part of the parking lot. The engineered removed that inlet top making a blind junction box and installed the new inlet 10' away.

Yesterday we had a frog strangling afternoon shower that flooded the job. The guys did a good job mudding up the connection as it was still holding water today.:D


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As the schedule would have it both crews were installing parking lot detention systems this week. The other crew is installing a standard StormTech system in the parking lot of an auto parts store, no not a green one this time..can't keep all your eggs in one basket.;)

I forget the model number of these chambers but they are the small 18" tall ones, super easy to handle.

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These chambers will be backfilled with #4 stone 6" above the top of the chamber, wrapped in fabric, another 1' of stone and then backfilled with on-site dirt to final sub-grade.

Easy peasy.:D
 

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So is all this stormwater retention / channeling to storm sewer design all called for by your local building codes/ city codes? They don't do anything like that by us.
 

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So is all this stormwater retention / channeling to storm sewer design all called for by your local building codes/ city codes? They don't do anything like that by us.

Crane Op it's required for permitting. The civil engineer has to calculate pre-development non-pervious area (IE natural ground) vs post development non-pervious area. Basically the roofs on these retail jobs pushes the need for these underground detention systems as these projects are typically on an acre with a 7-8K SF bldg. Add the parking and there's not much pervious surfaces left.

Cities and Counties here have adopted strict regulations on run-off due to urban flooding caused by **** poor planning during the last 50 years of development. That and we get around 6' of rain a year.
 

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Same regs here in our county in MI. The next round of State regs is going to get real interesting. Right now they say if the underdeveloped condition has 10 cfs runoff off rate, you can retain the excess and let it out at that rate.The state is now going to require if your site has 1000 cu feet of runoff in the undeveloped condition, that's all you can let run off in a rain event. If you have a total of 2000 cu feet, 1000 cu ft needs to be absorbed into the ground, evaporated etc. Sites with good coarse sand will be able to do that. Solid clay sites without good sand somewhere in the soil stratum will be undevelopable. Our county is probaly 25% sand, 25% solid clay and 50% a dukes mixture w/o good absorption. Only the municipal engineers paying attention are recognizing the impact on property owners. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.
I have a few things going for me. I can retire any time, I am neither a land owner or a land owner's engineer, and so far the regs don't apply to our county highway projects (see my first comment:p.)
If it was up to these azz hats, we would all be living in tents in the woods or grass huts on the prairies. :mad::mad: There would not be any heavy equipment for us to play with.
 

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Wow that is going to get interesting RDD.

Like any ridiculous government regulation it will either drive development away or raise the cost of goods sold. Owners are not just going to absorb that kind of cost without having to increase the sales price.

The flip side is if they allow grandfathered property to stay as is existing buildings will be worth much more money - you may want to be a building owner before the regs kick in.:)
 
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