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This is for you guys that think your helping us techs with your repair.

John C.

John C.

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When I was doing a lot of repair work I gave my customers options on the fix. You supply the parts and it will probably take this long for the repair and last maybe this long. You provide good help and it should be running again in this amount of time and I'll train them so they could do the same fix by themselves. The cost is the cost and I don't negotiate anything after the work is done.
I had one guy ask if it would be cheaper if I used his tools for the repair instead of mine. I explained to him that anyone that cheap probably was a high risk of not paying the bill and I left at that point.
 
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Mbar

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Seems like here lately I get called in to build a motor than was torn apart and the guy that did it fired after it’s completely spread over a shop or even a farm. If they complain about the price or the time it took to play where’s Waldo I tell them to let me take it apart next time
 
DMiller

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Turned two of those down less than 15 years ago. Guy had two Cummins 350 engines take outs from road tractors and had another guy tear them down for overhaul. The tear down guy died. Engines sat in a dirt floor shop for three years then I get a call guy has parts(REAL Cummins) and needs a couple engines built so I go to look. Cranks and cams rusted, Blocks were rusted so bad could NOT see the distortions on the block deck from years of head movement I KNEW was there, three of six cam boxes were frozen up with rust. All the new parts were still in the factory boxes along with the bugs and mouse poop of allowing the critters at them much of the parts corroded or worse. Did not make an offer, told him most was scrap and would need ALL machined to start with, cams and cranks reground rods blasted, was a Crapshoot at best. I said NO really loud and told him need to find someone else with time to throw away. As far as I know they went to a scrap yard when iron hit the Chinese high.
 
DMiller

DMiller

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Nimrod next to our old farm had a D6 pony start Cable unit, had fuel Leaks ALL OVER the injection pump, decided HE could fix those then set to pulling barrel retainers and popping off covers, he never did get it running adequately and asked me how much thousandths in a eighth inch as was using a piece of folding ruler to set plunger heights. Ended up calling a mechanic in Rolla who charged him $500 to set it all then found he smoked two pistons, maybe just rings. Could not catch a break as three weeks later wife left him and the crawler got sold for $1000 by HER. Three months later HE was in the Fulton MO Prison Reception Center for Child abuse, was sexually abusing his Grand daughter. After that have no clue where ended up.
 
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I have 1 RIGHT NOW.. who watched a video online & now it wont work..
I gave him A LIST of things to check.. THEN he sends me a link to the video he watched after I made mention of the one by Bundy Bear..
I don't think there could be a worse video than the BB one.. BOY WAS I WRONG.!!!
The one he found was THE WORST example of pump rebuilding I've ever seen by a "professional"..
{It really should be taken down.}
 
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Mbar

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DMiller said:
Turned two of those down less than 15 years ago. Guy had two Cummins 350 engines take outs from road tractors and had another guy tear them down for overhaul. The tear down guy died. Engines sat in a dirt floor shop for three years then I get a call guy has parts(REAL Cummins) and needs a couple engines built so I go to look. Cranks and cams rusted, Blocks were rusted so bad could NOT see the distortions on the block deck from years of head movement I KNEW was there, three of six cam boxes were frozen up with rust. All the new parts were still in the factory boxes along with the bugs and mouse poop of allowing the critters at them much of the parts corroded or worse. Did not make an offer, told him most was scrap and would need ALL machined to start with, cams and cranks reground rods blasted, was a Crapshoot at best. I said NO really loud and told him need to find someone else with time to throw away. As far as I know they went to a scrap yard when iron hit the Chinese high.
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I walked into a big cam stc this winter. All parts fresh from the machine shop. When I asked where the old cam follower shims for a starting point the said we scrapped those gaskets off. And no cpl number either. Out came the Sweeney tool and up went the bill
 
92U 3406

92U 3406

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John C. said:
When I was doing a lot of repair work I gave my customers options on the fix. You supply the parts and it will probably take this long for the repair and last maybe this long. You provide good help and it should be running again in this amount of time and I'll train them so they could do the same fix by themselves. The cost is the cost and I don't negotiate anything after the work is done.
I had one guy ask if it would be cheaper if I used his tools for the repair instead of mine. I explained to him that anyone that cheap probably was a high risk of not paying the bill and I left at that point.
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Well I'd have said "I can't use your tools, they're not experienced enough for the job" :p
 
walkerv

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thepumpguysc said:
I have 1 RIGHT NOW.. who watched a video online & now it wont work..
I gave him A LIST of things to check.. THEN he sends me a link to the video he watched after I made mention of the one by Bundy Bear..
I don't think there could be a worse video than the BB one.. BOY WAS I WRONG.!!!
The one he found was THE WORST example of pump rebuilding I've ever seen by a "professional"..
{It really should be taken down.}
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I was triing to find a vid on my 5 cylinder mercedes pump for turning it up just a little couldnt find any , prolly a good thing i thought to myself i will just send it to you when i get around to it
 
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thepumpguysc

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WOW Mbar.. I'll bet THAT was fun.??
We always tied the shims to the covers..& stamped the cyl # on it..
THAT made for quick work..
& NO CPL.??!!! dam, that hadta suk..
 
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Mbar

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thepumpguysc said:
WOW Mbar.. I'll bet THAT was fun.??
We always tied the shims to the covers..& stamped the cyl # on it..
THAT made for quick work..
& NO CPL.??!!! dam, that hadta suk..
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Had to call Cummins and give them the serial number and go from there. Set up the tool and took a guess judging by the book and add and subtract. Had two dead on and one was one thousand off. Ran like a top
 
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thepumpguysc said:
No Thank You.. That pump is the BIGGEST Pain in the Azz that was ever made.!!
Its amazing the technology that went into it tho..
Dam thing doesn't weight 12lbs but will make a grown man cry.. Lol
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Hmmmm.... how bout' if walkerv does all the hard work and then maybe you could just put it back together????? pretty please ?????......:D
 
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