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protection for lightning

Mother Deuce

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We would have intense storms several times a year in the mine. I concur with Queenslander that it is counterintuitive to remain sitting in a 75 ton wet block of iron... we were instructed that when the storm was popping close to make sure the windows and doors were closed, come to a stop and sit with your hands in your lap. After the main body of the storm had passed... back to work. Staying in the machine worked at our place.
 

Queenslander

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I should also mention that in both the cases that I mentioned, we were on open canopy tractors with rain blowing in, windows probably down in the truck, so the urge to make a bolt for it is overwhelming.
 

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Ok random question on the topic. New to the forum by the way. So in say a John Deere 544J wheel loader would placing your bucket on the ground give the lightning a means of travel to ground to maybe bypass the occupant? Possibly try electronics and blow fuses...but maybe save a life?
On a rubber-tyred machine placing the bucket on the ground would give the energy a clear path to ground instead of it having to find its way through tyres (think steel cords) and/or jump to ground from the machine frame

For machines with no cab or an open ROPS all bets are off, but our machines were all equipped with cabs & aircons, so the SOP was always - stop work, ground the work tool or equipment, close all windows, leave the engine running for the aircon, and sit tight until the all clear sounds (if your work site has a lightning alert system) or until the storm has moved away (if it doesn't) ...........

As someone else pointed out earlier, Google "Faraday Cage" because that's exactly what the cab of a machine is. So in that respect remaining inside the machine cab is safe, being inside the work truck cab is safe, but it's the bit in between that'll get you every time. I understand Queenslander's point that it appears counter-intuitive to sit tight inside tons of metal as opposed to jump and run, but lightning travels at (unsurprisingly) the speed of light and there ain't no human being born yet that can move that fast.........

In mining work simply continued as normal during thunderstorms, the only time it stopped was if the rain got so heavy that roads or haul truck operator visibility became compromised.
 

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Was working a farm a few years back and had a brand new I mean less than 500 hours on it 8 series deere tractor get struck on the GPS globe fried every harness and circuit board in it even blew the top of one battery insurance fixed it tractor is still running
 

Tim Burke

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The CAP airplane was parked nearby, and several people who had taken shelter beneath the wings were shocked as well.

Way back in the day, we waited out storms sitting or standing under aircraft. I can also remember just keeping on working through it—it rains a lot on Guam and in the Philippines.

In ‘96, a lightening strike at Hurlburt Field, FL killed a guy standing under the wing of an AC-130H. Ever since, the lines are cleared if lightening is declared w/in 5 mi. Kinda makes me cringe to think back on all the time I spent as a potential lightening rod.
 

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Had a friend send me this a few years ago.

Would not have wanted to be the operator of that truck
 

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Nige

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But note that the document clearly states "Extensive equipment damage. No injuries to driver".
That's as good a recommendation as you'll ever see to stay in the machine during a lightning storm. Even with a direct strike to the truck the operator got out without a scratch.
The reason it blew out the tyres is because there was no metal path through the machine to ground and the energy grounded through the steel cords in the tyres.
 
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wornout wrench

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Yes, safe inside the truck.

I can't imagine what it was like, must have been like sitting on a bomb when it went off.

I like:
"Driver exited the truck as quickly
as he could and ran away to a safe distance from the truck"

I think that if I was the driver they could also add "to change his pants" at the end of that sentence.
 

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I can't imagine what it was like, must have been like sitting on a bomb when it went off.

I like:
"Driver exited the truck as quickly as he could and ran away to a safe distance from the truck"
While I can sympathise with the feelings of the operator after having had his machine blasted how on Earth was he to know what a "safe distance from the truck" was..? The old adage "lightning never strikes twice" is BS, if a second strike had come down anywhere near the truck while he was running away he'd have been a crispy critter in a heartbeat. Again I know it seems counter-intuitive but provided the truck didn't go on fire he'd have been safer to stay in it while lightning was continuing to come down. TBH all it did was blow the rear tyres, then the cab windows from the shockwave, maybe a few hydraulic lines as well.

I had a 7-year period of up close and personal experiences with electric storms. Right back in the early days of my last job, and before we had a lightning warning system, we lost a guy through a lightning strike as he was eating lunch under a tree. We were mining on top of a mountain consisting mostly of iron so as you can imagine it made one hell of a lightning rod. Being right in the path of the Atlantic hurricanes was just another complication. I have never seen strikes like it, coming down in big thick blue bolts that you could feel long before the noise blasted your eardrums. It kinda focused the mind wonderfully.
 
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