what has it been costing per hour to update? Have a 2006 200CLC deere w 6000hrs thinking of gaining 7-10 years or is it more cost effective to go straight to a new one warranty and all. I think i can afford a new one but if first and second year deprecation is factored maybe go for 2-3 year old machine.
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Welder Dave
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I don't think 6000hrs. is a lot on a well maintained excavator and certainly isn't that much for a 13 year old machine. Not even 500 hours a year. Read some the problems owners are having with their new machines and I think some would be happy to trade with you! I think if what you have works good I'd hang on to it unless you have a hole burning in your pocket from too much money.
Skeans1
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Is this a tier 3 machine? If so you might want to look at how much some of the filters will run you in the near future. With the tier 4 machines the final haven’t had the issues like the tier4 interm did. That said most of the issues I’ve been told about with any tier 4 stuff has been with dirt guys turning off the regen cycles and not keep the def clean. I can say my final tier 4 JD 1270G has a 9 liter that’s super easy on fuel less then 4 gallons an hour vs the tier 3 machines which were closer to or at 5 an hour.
The 200 was bought used, i have a few suspicions, weak pumps, tracks lack power at idle, oil has been hot before I had it, just average condition. It looks like it will cost about 20$/hr for the time I had it. thought a bout going to a 200D with 2-3000 hours now looking towards new. Seem like tier 4 does ok although i hate it, it is here to stay it looks like.
Welder Dave
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You didn't mention any of this in your original post. I think any machine will have weaker track power at idle.
Yep, definitely don’t cancel your regen cycles and if you have a minor issue with the system fix it instead of letting it go on not working...eventually it will plug up the DPF with soot from not regenerating and be a lot harder to fix if you ignore it. I’ve fixed a few machines where a less than $100 part and less than an hour’s worth of troubleshooting would have solved the issue before getting to a much worse point
Also always use clean, pure, new, DEF out of uncompromised containers. Any oil in the DEF, DEF getting out of concentration range, etc will cause issues.
Skeans1
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One of the big issues I can see is reusing containers like a 5 gallon race can could be an issue. What are most guys using or doing to carry def out to a job?
A lot of the times we see people using contaminated containers to transfer DEF from a bulk storage container to the machine...or the bulk storage itself is contaminated.
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Taylor what do you need the machine for and what do you expect earnings wise from it?
I have several pieces of iron with 4-6K hours on them and wouldn't think of replacing them anytime soon as they are all money makers - the reason we run the iron in the first place.
Some of our equipment-
2011 321DLCR is a mainline hoe for one crew and it's pushing 6K hours and showing no signs of giving up. The machine is a money maker. It's paid for so it's only costs are taxes, insurance, fuel and maintenance.
2004 953C with 5K hours. It's ready for an UC for around $15K to be ready for another 5K. It's a machine that floats between our 2 crews and doesn't get used everyday. It's paid for so it's only costs are taxes, insurance, fuel and maintenance.
2004 D5G with over 5K hours. This dozer is also a floater between the 2 crews as needed. It's paid for so it's only costs are taxes, insurance, fuel and maintenance.
325FL with 600 hours bought in 2018. $220K tractor that we used and RPO to buy. After the 6 months of rental that was 100% applied to purchase price the note was $158K, $3K+ per month for 48 months.
Now I need that 321DLCR to help pay for the 325FL. When the 325FL is paid for and the 321 has 8-9K hours on the clock, it will be time to retire the 321 and buy another 50K lb hoe. The 953 and D5G will be maintained and repaired in order to keep in the fleet for probably the rest of my working career and accompany me into retirement. I have plans for adding another "smart" dozer this year, either a 5 or 6.
Take care of your equipment and it will take care of you.
I have several pieces of iron with 4-6K hours on them and wouldn't think of replacing them anytime soon as they are all money makers - the reason we run the iron in the first place.
Some of our equipment-
2011 321DLCR is a mainline hoe for one crew and it's pushing 6K hours and showing no signs of giving up. The machine is a money maker. It's paid for so it's only costs are taxes, insurance, fuel and maintenance.
2004 953C with 5K hours. It's ready for an UC for around $15K to be ready for another 5K. It's a machine that floats between our 2 crews and doesn't get used everyday. It's paid for so it's only costs are taxes, insurance, fuel and maintenance.
2004 D5G with over 5K hours. This dozer is also a floater between the 2 crews as needed. It's paid for so it's only costs are taxes, insurance, fuel and maintenance.
325FL with 600 hours bought in 2018. $220K tractor that we used and RPO to buy. After the 6 months of rental that was 100% applied to purchase price the note was $158K, $3K+ per month for 48 months.
Now I need that 321DLCR to help pay for the 325FL. When the 325FL is paid for and the 321 has 8-9K hours on the clock, it will be time to retire the 321 and buy another 50K lb hoe. The 953 and D5G will be maintained and repaired in order to keep in the fleet for probably the rest of my working career and accompany me into retirement. I have plans for adding another "smart" dozer this year, either a 5 or 6.
Take care of your equipment and it will take care of you.
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Tile- farm drainage, just got a large (for me) main line tile-30 inch down to 8, also have a 330lc deere for heavy digging. Seems like we can put 700-1000 hrs a year on it.
Tiling is very seasonal, down time hurts. Tile plow is worth $1000's/ hour so keeping it going is critical.
cuttin edge
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We had John Deere for years, 3 different 320 cats. Started having issues with the Deere's, 320s were good, but expensive. Having a lot of luck with Link belt. Have 5 of them now.