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Georgia Iron · Feb 14, 2019

I am the do it your self repair guy. I work for myself and don't have the resources a lot of you do. Your posts help teach and expand my knowledge. There are many ways to do something. Sometimes on this site reply comments get missed and you don't reply due to not having time or for whatever reason. I try to read almost everything written here about track loaders, dozers, skid steers, excavators, engine repair and the like. To have a better understanding of general issues.

Don't take it too personal - the no response, the no thank you etc. There are people reading learning and appreciating your time and thoughts. Even the threads that go sideways. In general it seems the site is not as active as it was before the platform change. Keep it alive and keep the conversations going.

TVA · Feb 14, 2019

Since ‘99 my ass!!! Since ‘99 can’t read diagrams?!

I just didn’t want to leave the comment box empty, but some colored animal forced my hand!!!
And now I’m pissed!!!
I don’t even care if I will get kicked out of here!

And that’s a matter of “hydraulic common sense”! How can you have same relief valve for two systems which have separate pumps, separate flow control, separate control valves, and get to work together only on combined operations.
The second Excavator I ever worked on - had a problem with boom, arm and one of the tracks because of main relief on B block! The arm, swing and another track was fine!

Didn’t want to start an argument?!
I guess he picked the wrong day!!!

BTW I sent him duplicate to his PM! And still hear - crickets!

OK - the rant is over! I’m back to my “manly” side now!!!

Vetech63 · Feb 14, 2019

I'm getting that Tracing feeling...………….anyone else?

TVA · Feb 14, 2019

Vetech63 said:
I'm getting that Tracing feeling...………….anyone else?

If you talking about me then - NO, that was the last of it!!!

ianjoub · Feb 14, 2019

thepumpguysc said:
& WHY do people feel its necessary to reply w/ a quote??
We're all reading the same page..
Does anyone else find that annoying??

No

Vetech63 · Feb 14, 2019

Well, I was debating saying anything, but screw it.
It one thing to disagree with someone's opinion, its completely on another level to make a post about it in another section of a forum and basically bash the person you don't agree with.
Fair is fair. This forum has experience that money just cant buy. It has been a tremendous help to me in my own business and I have been doing this for 30 years. NO ONE person knows everything, but the collective of knowledge here can troubleshoot, diagnose, and repair just about anything as I have witnessed since I have been here. If you disagree with an opinion then base it on facts...…..or be gentleman and agree to disagree.
I do my best to give what information I know through knowledge and experience. If I give an inaccurate opinion and some one knows I have, then I would expect them to correct me as I DONT want to be the cause of costing someone else money they didn't need to spend, and I don't take it personal. This forum will continue to be a teaching forum for all of us. Lets be respectful to each other and LEARN.

Kobelco ireland · Feb 14, 2019

TVA said:
And that’s a matter of “hydraulic common sense”! How can you have same relief valve for two systems which have separate pumps, separate flow control, separate control valves, and get to work together only on combined operations.

Hydraulic common sense ?. If you don't understand how a machine can have only one main relief valve for all funchions there is not much point in me explaining it to you. If you want to test the theory go to most if not all modern machines drop the pressure of the one main relief valve fitted to 0 and all funchions stop not just one side. I was willing to let it go till you came on to a different thread and talked s**t about me. Are you still hearing crickets now

TVA · Feb 14, 2019

I promised that it will be the last of it from my side - that is why I would be silent! Anyone who wants to know what’s going on and who’s right and who’s not - just go to that thread and read it for your self! Who tried to diffuse the situation and who kept coming on.
I don’t see rebuttal from this guy yet!!! Nobody made him to insert his smart ass comments to the conversation when I tried to explain how things work generally to the person who didn’t know it. And who admitted that he was wrong and who didn’t!
Vetech63, you need to come back there and re read the whole thing with attention! Before I loose respect for you.

Blue Ox - I’ll be short and sweet! You can kiss my buttocks!!!

I’m singing off for a week!!! To cool off!

Kobelco ireland · Feb 14, 2019

TVA said:
I promised that it will be the last of it from my side - that is why I would be silent! Anyone who wants to know what’s going on and who’s right and who’s not - just go to that thread and read it for your self! Who tried to diffuse the situation and who kept coming on.
I don’t see rebuttal from this guy yet!!! Nobody made him to insert his smart ass comments to the conversation when I tried to explain how things work generally to the person who didn’t know it. And who admitted that he was wrong and who didn’t!
Vetech63, you need to come back there and re read the whole thing with attention! Before I loose respect for you.

Blue Ox - I’ll be short and sweet! You can kiss my buttocks!!!

I’m singing off for a week!!! To cool off!

TVA said:
Nobody made him to insert his smart ass comments to the conversation when I tried to explain how things work generally to the person who didn’t know it.

It was not a smart ass comment I simply pointed out that you gave him the incorrect pressure settings to a guy that is already confused about his machine and was trying to stop him from getting even more confused. I asked about main relief valve cos I have never worked on a machine with two main reliefs I didn't say you were wrong only asked could you tell me which machine you worked on that had this set up I don't think I need to apologise or say I was wrong for correcting a mistake and asking a question. It seems to me your took this as a personal attack which you should not have, but you should not of slipped off to a different forum and talked crap about me. I would hope in future we can all correct misinformation if we see it and ask what machine has that setup cos I have never come across it before.

kshansen · Feb 14, 2019

Nige said:
If someone is replying to the post directly above - yes.
Replying to a post anywhere before that - all it does is make clear which post you're replying to. HEF threads can (and frequently do) get derailed .........

And I find sometimes I think I'm replying to the last post and after composing my reply and posting it four other people have also replied!

If the post I'm replying to is more than say three lines I try to edit down to the specific part I am trying to answer or comment on.

And other times due to life getting in the way of important things like Heavy Equipment Forum I may be replying to something that was posted a few days back.

Vetech63 · Feb 14, 2019

TVA said:
Vetech63, you need to come back there and re read the whole thing with attention! Before I loose respect for you.

I don't need to reread the thread. I see this a lot and I didn't take what was said in a bad way, in which you evidently did. To come here and post what you did was inappropriate. I just called you out for it in hopes of you learning from that mistake and not making it again. Be a positive part of the forum, admit you fucked up, and move on. Its that simple. There are going to be differences of opinions but there are better ways of handling those.

TVA said:
Blue Ox - I’ll be short and sweet! You can kiss my buttocks!!!

LOL again...…...inappropriate. This is acting like the 1 clown the rest of us loathe. Try again...……….

TVA said:
I’m singing off for a week!!! To cool off!

Yeah, that's a good idea. I hope you don't treat your customers this way...………….could be why you aren't getting paid by some?

Mother Deuce · Feb 23, 2019

crane operator said:
You guys haven't been paying attention. He's back because it won't regen. So be nice- he's got problems that he needs help with.

He also wanted to mount rippers on it.

https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/emissions-faults-technical-pls-advise.75510/

https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/rippers-will-it-hold-up.75501/#post-792748

Thats the same guy?...

walkerv · Feb 23, 2019

DMiller said:
Was there anyone that replies in here NOT on that post?

I was not on that post but followed it closely shaking my head everytime i opened it to see what had transpired since my last read.

TVA · Feb 23, 2019

It seems that guy on testing thread talking about the same u tuber.
I have mixed feelings about that guy.
It shows that he knows about his AG, trucks, pick ups A LOT!

I guess the moral of these stories is: be diligent as you can be, communicate and share with other specialists as much as you can and be corteous!!!

Wes J · Feb 23, 2019

Sorry TVA. I did not realize this thread was about the same subject when I started the thread about testing before replacing components.

The YouTuber in question seems to be pretty good at fixing some things, but I think he is out of his depth in other areas. He's either too stubborn to admit that, or he is desperate for work and taking anything he can get. Or possibly both.

He seems to be what I call a "needed it anyway" mechanic. That's a guy who changes parts and when the problem remains he tells the customer "well it probably needed it anyway".

I've very often been asked to work on equipment I don't know well or have never worked on before. But, I try to be methodical and follow the manufacturer's manuals and test procedures. It's ridiculous to think you can charge in like some cowboy and fix a complex machine with no service information and little to no test equipment.

partsandservice · Feb 24, 2019

I don't think I have enough knowledge of the subject of this thread to comment to much, but often I find there there are multiple problems causing the one complaint esp when it is a system, like fuel or hydraulic. Multiple problems are often from progressive damage or prior tinkering. As far as offering advice on a board such as this, what you are trying to convey can be lost in translation so to speak, if you on site with said person you could probably show them what you are trying to get through their head. Some will never get it. Like trying to diagnose and repair an exhaust after treatment system that has been locked out. My life is stressful enough, so why let someone you don't know add to that stress. It's like asking or telling a woman not to spend all the money , you are wasting your time and breath .

Nige · Feb 24, 2019

partsandservice said:
It's like asking or telling a woman not to spend all the money , you are wasting your time and breath .

I think trying to have that kind of discussion with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. You wade through 16 pages of gumf and eventually press the “I Agree” button.....

TVA · Feb 24, 2019

Nige said:
I think trying to have that kind of discussion with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. You wade through 16 pages of gumf and eventually press the “I Agree” button.....

In my family it’s the other way: I’m a spender and she is the keeper. And I never had money before I married her! Now we don’t have money either, but if it is something important - she can “find” the money!

My Mom and mother in law the same way!!!

thepumpguysc · Feb 24, 2019

Lol.. mine just text me & told me the "girl scout cookies" are at her store..{out front}
I said, "Save your money".. She wrote me back, "THAT wasn't the response I was expecting"..
I'll bet she comes home w/ AT LEAST 6 boxes.!!
Those "Girl Scouts" have gotten outta hand.. 10 cookies for 12.00.!!!

TVA · Feb 24, 2019

thepumpguysc said:
Lol.. mine just text me & told me the "girl scout cookies" are at her store..{out front}
I said, "Save your money".. She wrote me back, "THAT wasn't the response I was expecting"..
I'll bet she comes home w/ AT LEAST 6 boxes.!!
Those "Girl Scouts" have gotten outta hand.. 10 cookies for 12.00.!!!

Well! That’s charity!

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