Is there anything similar to this still being manufactured

If you want an object lesson in buying older machinery, I suggest that you take the time to read through this thread. At the end of the day I think you may find it worthwhile bearing in mind your situation and needs. I would suggest that the OP has a much higher level of maintenance capability than yourself, but don't take that as being a criticism, just to help you be mindful of what you could be getting into with equipment.
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/cat-951-c-in-my-sights.38778/

I appreciate all the responses/suggestions.

I'm looking at a couple different machines, I'm leery to post them cause chances are iffy thatthat som is gonna accuse me of basically being a dumbass and too be honest I'm tiring of the online beating.

No offense to anyone here.

Bottom line I know I don't know what the heck I'm looking at as far as wether or not the machine has issues and at this point that can't be helped, all I can do is use my best judgement and hope for the best.

The little Kubota I bought I like cause it's basic/ simple and I know there's nothing on it i can't fix when it breaks.

Sure it's old and basic and slow but that is of no concern to me.

Maybe i need to find a backhoe from the early/mid eighties as well.

I'd like to buy this https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bobcat-B20...chine-Skid-Steer-Bucket-422-HRS-/372575019994 machine but I'm scared cause even though it's low hour it looks not well cared for.

If anyone here knows of a similar machine ( maybe a few years older so I can get it cheaper and have more wiggle room for repair money ) than I would appreciate a heads up of model number.

This machine here would do everything I'd like to do and then some.

It would also be a keeper

Here's my Kubota. Btw. It's a great tractor.

Wish it had a bucket and 4 wd.

They came with them, just not mine.

I've had it for a few months and never an issue, Ive pulled trees out of the woods 16 inches in diameter and 10 feet long with this thing.

Picture sucks, on phone. Post later

That bobcat is about 30HP and 6,000lb so it's not the same thing I'd consider a tractor loader backhoe. The price is suspiciously low for the hours and age... You could do worse, if it was local, I'd say pay the money to get somebody to look at it who knows something, tough to do though, not a lot of those around so you'd have to find somebody who at least knows the components and can guess (or research) to see what to look for on them.

I don't think looking for certain model is the way to go. I'd look local (whether that's drive it home distance, 1 hour driving or whatever) and see what comes up.

I thought the price didn't jive with the unit for sale

If the trees haven't been cut yet and you have the ability to cut it high, say ten feet or so, you can tether up to the top of the cut for more leverage and pull on that and the stump usually follows. We knock trees down by pushing all the time, usually pulls up most of the stump and the rest is easier. The sand could cause issues with traction and if you don't have a ROPS or cage, can be dangerous if your strap gives.

I think some pictures of the actual property and the sand your dealing with is required to help advise on a machine for you. Otherwise this thread could on forever. You aren't sure what you need and are flipping back and forth. You say you aren't in a hurry but your actions say otherwise in my opinion. Lets see what you're trying to do.

Welder Dave said:

I think some pictures of the actual property and the sand your dealing with is required to help advise on a machine for you. Otherwise this thread could on forever. You aren't sure what you need and are flipping back and forth. You say you aren't in a hurry but your actions say otherwise in my opinion. Lets see what you're trying to do.

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Take a look at his other thread Dave. It has photos.
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/what-can-i-be-looking-for-long-post-i-know.75288/

I saw the photos in that thread but it doesn't really show what the sand is like once you dug into it. He said he trouble with his little Kubota and pulling his DR backhoe around so I would say a CTL or Bobcat with over the tire tracks or a smaller track loader like a Cat 931, Case 450 or JD 450. I know my skid steer is useless in playground sand and white silica sand used on some golf courses. If the sand has some clay in it and packs it will do some work but still not very good when you need to dig into it or need traction to push tree's.

What you need given your criteria is almost impossible to find. If you did choose a cheap suitably sized and speced machine at your budget, the chances are something expensive will fail and the repair cost will be eye watering! You could be lucky, but judging by my experience and what I've read on this forum that's a real lottery.

Your best shot would be to get someone in with a large tracked excavator and get them to knock down and uproot the big material and then you can clean it up with your existing machine or one you find at your leisure. That way the really machine busting work will be someone else's responsibility and you can get on with the job quicker. Could save a lot of money & time.

AusDave

Another option is to rent a skid steer or CTL and see how it works before purchasing one.

Throttle position sensor on a Volvo grader, $650.00 windshield wiper motor for an L90 Volvo loader $1400.00. alternator for a Volvo grader $2300.00 plus an $1100.00 core charge. Hydraulic quick couplers on a bobcat skid steer easily broken $400.00 each. A new 15 inch asphalt grinder for a bobcat $32000.00. a set of bristles for a sweepster broom for a bobcat $1100.00. . The money going out never ends. Make sure you have a big bank account just in case

cuttin edge said:

Throttle position sensor on a Volvo grader, $650.00 windshield wiper motor for an L90 Volvo loader $1400.00. alternator for a Volvo grader $2300.00 plus an $1100.00 core charge. Hydraulic quick couplers on a bobcat skid steer easily broken $400.00 each. A new 15 inch asphalt grinder for a bobcat $32000.00. a set of bristles for a sweepster broom for a bobcat $1100.00. . The money going out never ends. Make sure you have a big bank account just in case

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Crazy but eye opening

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Crazy but eye opening

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I think not. You are coming into an industry of which you've had no previous experience so your "price radar" isn't calibrated yet. What Cutting Edge posted are good examples of what you are getting into and what you need to be aware of. I just ordered a chassis crossmember for a haul truck that cost $19,000 and I was surprised how cheap it was. If you'd asked me I would have estimated it to be probably around $30k.

Go back and have a good look at that thread I linked in post #41 above. In many cases the OP lists what he paid for the parts to repair, update, & improve the tractor he originally bought as a "runner" for $10,000. I would hazard a guess that he has put in probably the same amount of money again in parts after his purchase, so right now his 951C probably stands him at about $20k. This is what you are getting into with "old school" non-electronic equipment that is repairable by the average mechanic with no more than a half-decent set of basic tools. There is a reason why the thread has gone over 60 pages, if for no other reason than a tribute to the tenacity of the machine owner to get his piece of equipment "right" as opposed to simply "it runs" .........

Even a rubber Track machine is not fool proof. I've seen guys ruin a track pretty quick, and well the track on my snowmobile was $800.00 so I would dare to venture a skid steer track would be a lot more. In my mind a four wheel drive rubber tire backhoe is all you need. Case seems to be really popular on here. I wouldn't go real old. Not all electronics are bad. A lot of that stuff can be diagnosed with a good multimeter and a book.

For a price perspective another thread posted an add of a 2013 bobcat T770 for $15,566 that he was interested in. I suspect it's a scam because the price was low, the pic wasn't in the snow, too clean etc. and at least one other person agreed. In the good old days you could find scammer skidsteer adds for $2,555, the prices have gone up even in Nigerians imaginations

There can be a lot of good reasons to have someone come in and give you an estimate for the work you want done. Yeah, maybe you could find a $10,000 machine that would do the work but the repair bills for every little thing will nickel and dime you to death when you're on a tight budget. Have something major go wrong and your work won't get done until you can afford to pay for the repairs. Renting a machine(s) is another option that won't leave you with unexpected expenses unless you're seriously negligent.

I was just going to add to this thread, I have been working with various decrepit equipment all my life and I hire done or rent as much as possible.

Especially in this land of Tier 4 everything, I like to have somebody else be responsible for that engine spaghetti.

I appreciate the responses and the advice. I understand that you people are trying to not let me make a mistake, the same mistakes some of you have made.

With that said I DO NOT want to hire someone, I just turned 50, Ive worked hard all my life, so hard Im hopefully gonna kinda retire Feb 2023, I cant do the things I used to do now that I could do at 30, its only gonna go downhill.

I want a intermittent use machine for my property, ( that will fit in my storage container ) something that will be used intermittently to help me move dirt, stack wood ( with the help of a thumb ) help me move heavy objects ( Ive already had 3 hernia operations ) if at all possible help me to dig out some small stumps ( with a backhoe attachment ) and do prob an endless amount of other chores without breaking my balls.

With that said Im hoping its OK to post some what about this examples.

It will give me a better idea of what and why not.

Im just trying to learn, dont take it personally

So what about this https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gehl-3310-Skid-Steer-Loader-/292944994170?oid=292935171813

I know its not tracked, just trying to get some examples out there.

If this were avail locally for this price why would I want to stay clear of it?