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Case Skid Steer/Cummins 3.9 Torque Specs?

Bobcat Crazy

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Hi All, I just bought a Case skid steer, I haven't even gotten all of the parts to my shop yet so I don't know a lot about it other than someone had taken it apart because the engine needed a crank and bearings. It has the Cummins 3.9 diesel engine. I have the new crank and bearings installed in the engine but I am to the point that I need the torque specs. I'm sure that there is a chart or a link that someone has posted already but I haven't been able to find it. Could someone help me with this? Thanks in advance for your help. Merry Christmas :D
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alrman

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G'day @Bobcat Crazy
Early 4-390 engines had a normal torque setting procedure.
They changed to Torque Angle along the line & most use this method for all now.

It's not CNH or Cummins - but it's concise & accurate ;)
 

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sims

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airman,
Can you re-use the existing bolts or do you need new fasteners for torque angle assembly? Thanks.
SimS
 

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@sims There is a gauge in genuine CNH gasket kits, where you check for stretched bolts.
However, I usually replace the bolts anyways.....
I am old school & don't really like the torque angle method...... but people who get paid alot more than me say it's the way we should do this now :rolleyes:
 

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Is "torque angle" the same as "torque-to-yield?" If so then the bolts are definitely not reusable as they will have been stretched past their elastic deformation limit and will be permanently deformed and weakened.
However, I was under the impression that all Cummins B-series bottom end bolts were just standard torque-to-spec fasteners and only the later head bolts were torque-to-yield.
The two B-series bottom ends I have reassembled held up fine with reused fasteners and common torque procedures, as per their manuals.
 

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Is "torque angle" the same as "torque-to-yield?" If so then the bolts are definitely not reusable as they will have been stretched past their elastic deformation limit and will be permanently deformed and weakened.
However, I was under the impression that all Cummins B-series bottom end bolts were just standard torque-to-spec fasteners and only the later head bolts were torque-to-yield.
The two B-series bottom ends I have reassembled held up fine with reused fasteners and common torque procedures, as per their manuals.
Same here. I have reused many bolts with no issues so far.
 

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The torque angle method is suggested for both big ends & mains in newer CNH service manuals that are younger than about 1990.

Here is a pic of something I once found in the oil pan of a 6-590.
I pulled the pan to replace it because it had holes worn into it & was leaking.
This is approximately 2 years after the engine was purchased as a service exchange unit from Cummins Australia.

I dare say torque angle would have been used to rebuild this engine.......

6B 590 oil pan.jpg
 
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NICE bolt :eek: I'm glad that I don't have any that look like that (yet). Well that is other than the ones I broke into trying to get the cam gear back on. But hey I just re-drilled and re-tapped with a bigger size until I was successful :D.
 
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