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What engine is this? Olympian genset.

Steve Bowman

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It's been over two weeks waiting on my CAT dealer About to give up.

Can anyone id this for me?
Thanks

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I assume you are looking for engine parts/information but is there a data plate on the generator end..?

Yep!


Did not find a tag on the engine - just the serial #. The genset tag...20181021_150632.jpg
 
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When the label on the genset says "Exclusively From Your Caterpillar Dealer", I had little doubt that they could help.

When I got there, they looked at me like I was asking for part numbers for the space shuttle.

This is from 1994 - wonder how long ago CAT quit carrying Olympian?
 

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I can tell you a lot about this genset. What is it you want to know?

Cat/Olympian was originally a joint venture with Generac I believe.

The tags and pictures you show are Generac through and through. Generac is not known for supporting stuff this old, Cat is, but I don't know how much of this ever filtered into the Cat system.

After a while, Cat and Generac did not get along and production of Olympian moved to FG Wilson and I have had very good success with ordering parts for those but they are a whole different animal, only similarity is the name and that they are yellow.

That engine is a Mazda or possibly some other clone.

If it is a 3.0L engine then it is most likely a Mazda HA engine, looks identical to me. According to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Diesel_engine it was licensed from Perkins who never built any.

I don't know if it was ever used in anything but Generac in the US. Generac has a habit of using special engines that nobody else uses. Once support dries up it can be hard.

The 94 in the number indicates 1994. Contact a Generac industrial dealer that is large and experienced would be your best hope.
 

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Well, that does certainly shed some light on the subject. Thank You.
I guess it makes a little sense given the trouble we are having.

I was looking for a plan B if I strike out at the CAT dealer. Inventory control says the parts are still on backorder. Local dealer is covering the overnight shipping due to the length of time this has taken. So I am not hung out to dry quite yet.

Incidentally, Olympian is still one of CAT's brands. https://www.caterpillar.com/en/company/brands/olympian.html
Olympian is positioned as a “value brand” with customers. It gives dealers an option to offer a lower priced, more simple, yet quality product for price sensitive markets and applications. Main differentiation to the Cat brand is the parts and service support. While the Cat branded product is supported by the Cat parts system, the Olympian product uses an different, lower cost, independent parts logistics system.

Glad to get an probable ID on the engine. Might need it in the future, but at this point, all I am looking for is a thermostat and gaskets. I started at my local NAPA/Implement store, but struck out there.

Does the G3402 stamped on the block tell us anything? Access on the back side of the genset is a little tight, but that is all I found when I gave it a quick look. How can I further solidify the ID?


This is the only other picture I have right now. Maybe it will help?
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I am sure it is the Generac/Mazda engine but what are you going to do? Call up the local Mazda industrial diesel dealer? [There aren't any]

You could find something at NAPA that fits, or call a Generac distributor with the serial number and see if they can get it. This engine was used for a long time. I have one much older (all Generac, no Cat) you could borrow the SN if you need. Gaskets can be made with scissors and knife and ball peen hammer.
 

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Man, I wish I had a picture of our old Case Trencher - Sure looks like the Mitsubishi engine we had, and Cat and Mitzi have collaborated
 

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Took several weeks, but they finally got some of the parts. Still had to make the gaskets though.

The pricing was strange.
Thermostat "kit" was over $90, but the temp sensor was only $17. Would have expected those to be reversed.
 

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Are u still trying to ID the engine??
Just give me the #'s off the top line on the inj. pump name plate & I'll tell u exactly what it is..
Sorry I didn't see this back in Nov.
 

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10-4.. I have most of the oem pump info.. & it lists engine & sometimes machine MODEL by the inj. pump info.
I see folks online searching & searching for info about their machines.. almost daily..
Just this last week & this week there was a guy searching for info about his Ford tractor.. I saw his post on 4 diff. forums. I got his pump info & answered his question> "what is it".. by just plugging his pump info into my program..
But its not fool proof.. seeing theres a lot of pump swapping that happens.. Theres a thread on here now about a 580.. & some wiring color questions.. I got the guys pump info & it comes back to a 530.. I thought he may have been searching in the wrong book.. for the wires.. but he insists its a 580 & the pumps were probably switched..
Oh well, I tried..
What gets me is> why the hell do u buy something that u don't know what it is.???!!!!
I see this header all the time>> Please Help ID..
THEN the first sentence is usually> I bought the tractor off Craigs List & I;m trying to ID it.. & get some info on it.. WHY did u buy it if u don't know what it is.!!!
 

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Generator manufacturers, especially Generac like to use what the techs call "engine of the month"

For instance the local PD has a new Generac diesel generator. Out of curiosity I have been trying and trying to figure out what engine it is because they hid the manufacturer real good. The conclusion I eventually came to was that it is some Korean manufacturer with a 3 letter name that does not otherwise appear in the US. And I am usually pretty good at recognizing engines, little symbols, etc. but this one was a stumper.

Next time I go there I will get some numbers off the IP and see what they say.
 

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PLEASE get a spray can Gasket/Paint remover.. its cheap & on top of that, if anyone is watching, makes u look like a professional.. instead of pulling out your pocket knife & goin to town on the paint..
These NEWER pumps are laser etched now.. u can barely see the #'s & they're etched into a soft tin plate..
You dont wanna start scraping them w/ a knife.. "Just a little tip from your Uncle Larry."
 
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I no longer have Generac Industrial access after leaving my last employer, but I do have the Mazda 3.0 engine service manual saved on my laptop if you want it. I don't have the parts manual, but it's Generac document #PB30000D according to the service manual.
 
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