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Pat ds 350 problems

mwelding

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My display in cab reads error code 94. So I replaced the wires from Central unit to display. Still says error 94. Any help on where to look next. Thanks
 

crane operator

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It makes a difference which ds 350 you have. There's a ds 350 and then the ds 350GW. The gw's are the grove only version. The easiest way to tell which one you have is the GW versions have a number keypad on the right side of the display, the standard 350 has a set of two digits that have a spinner wheel on each one to change the crane set up (jib, no jib main boom etc.) Some of them only say DS350 not G.

There are online pdf's of the fault codes. Just a heads up, if its the display on a GW, there are no parts available for those, if its the standard one like the lower picture, parts are available for those.

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crane operator

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Here's a manual
http://www.bodetechnicalservices.com/wp-content/uploads/Stamp_pdf/DS350GGWSer.pdf

The man I talk to when I'm stuck is Bob Basil of Basil cranes. But he prefers that you go through the whole trouble shooting list and have your meter ready, so you can get readings right off the board before you call him.

https://basilequipment.com/?page_id=19

He used to work for PAT and knows his stuff. Their Salesman will just tell you to buy a maestro, and replace everything, and that's about $8-10,000 maybe more (depending on what all you need).

Looks like 94 is loss of data, there's a set of checks that you can do, but I'm betting its going to be your board in the grey box that has your eprom on it. That's about a $3,000 part if I remember from the last one I bought. Last I talked to Bob, he said to expect 5-7 years out of a board. To replace the board is still cheaper than the alternatives.
 

mwelding

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Its the standard ds 350. I just got off the phone with Tom at Basil and he gave me a different # for someone who knows the system better. I’m hoping he calls back to go through more checks. I was really hoping it was just the wires.
 

crane operator

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I think Tom is their salesman. The troubleshooting manual tells you where to hook up the tester and the OHM values that you get on the output is the important thing. If it falls out of the regular range, the board is usually bad.

I like the manual because it shows a drawing of where to pull the values, if I remember right, my numbers on the posts weren't the same as in the book, but I was able to figure out from the drawings which studs I needed to be on.
 

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I did the board, but I'm a cheapskate and I don't mind rolling the dice a little on a repair. It's gotten me another 4-5 years of use now out of the system. But something might die in it tomorrow.

I'd rather fix what I have for $3,000 than all new for $8-10,000. I don't think if I was upgrading the whole thing, that I would use hirschman. I like the cranesmart scales (tensionometer rather than pressure transducer). I've never had a full system cranesmart though.

Don't you have a old tms 300?

I run my tms 300 with scale and a boom angle indicator and boom length by on stickers on the boom, but like I said, I'm cheap, and I like simple. I mostly only run single line also, a guy that runs two winches all the time would have to buy a second tensionometer. I figure if I have the weight, boom length and boom angle, its on me if I mess up. If you have a bunch of different people running it and some aren't the most experienced, a full lmi is not bad insurance.

It will be the cheapest to just replace the board. Depending on what you do and who your operators are would determine for me what kind of system I put in. I kind of like just a manual boom angle indicator and a scale.
 
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