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Gearing up for side work

92U 3406

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Speakin of drinkin'... Its AMAZING how much I DONT DRINK once I quit workin.!!!!
I'd be willing to bet that Budweiser{A-B} stock went DOWN after December 2017..?? lol
I'll have to do alittle research..

What did you decide to do 92 ?? Did you start your side bus.??

I think I'm going to hold off until I have a place with at least a small garage. Somewhere to store parts, supplies and extra tooling. I'm having a fair amount of trouble finding a secure spot to park a work truck right now as well. The joys of city living lol.
 

thepumpguysc

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Sunny South Carolina
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Master Inj.Pump rebuilder
I KNOW whatcha mean.. I even thought about renting a space out here in the country.. but after crunching the #'s.. I found out REAL QUICK>>I'd be working for "rent money"..
BTW> Budweiser stock has fallen from 111.00 a share>> to 94.00.!!!!
I did NOT KNOW I drank that much.. {contrary to public opinion} LOL..
 

Jumbo

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Black Diamond WA
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retired
Just a couple of observations:

1) If you are married and stable in the relationship, have your spouse "own the business." She will pay your wages, she will do much of the paperwork (in most cases,) and as an employee, you get a bit better coverage both in labor laws and liability, (who owns your tools if you get sued.) If you are union, you get your union wages and health care. Here in Washington State, almost everyone I know in business for themselves "works for the wife." Both of you draw wages, so there is some form of tax benefit, (not sure exactly what, but all tell me about it.)

2) I would never work for cash, too often, people know the difference or think they do, so immediately you are at a disadvantage in negotiating the price for work. They offer 10-20% less than they would be willing to pay if not cash. The fellow that works on my car, (I'm not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination,) refuses to work on a cash only basis. Cash customers assume you are working under the table and figure if you will cheat the government, you will cheat them. I bought steel at a small steel yard until about a year ago when the IRS and L&I shut them down for not collecting sales tax, not paying income tax etc.

3) You paperwork labor hours in most cases will equal your tool labor hours assuming you do everything above board.
 

BondoNJ

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Jun 17, 2018
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New Jersey
New here, first post.

I found HEF looking for a problem with my JLG e400ajpn but I called a tech in.

I have a welding and fabrication business that I started 12 years ago, I was 23. I got tired of being a great employee who always got the short end of the aggravation stick. I do great now, but it was a huge struggle to start.

Major things I suggest you look at before you figure out what you want to do is...

Insurance, I use a broker as places they work with me to get the proper coverage. You would be surprised how a few words can change how your policy is handled when a claim hits.

Depending on how you setup your business determines if you need WC. A llc says no, but a scorp says yes. Your customers may also require it.

Long term tool spending... How much money do you want to spend for tools? The sooner you get them, the more you make later. But I suggest paying for all tools in cash so you don't hit a slow period and that causes problems.

Shop... I have my shop on the same property as my house. 1 payment for the house and shop, not 2.

And lastly, how long do you plan to do this..... 2 things I see happen a lot. You will either float the business or you will love being self employed so much you quit your full time job. What I mean by floating is you say you want to work 6 days a week during your off time, but it becomes too time consuming and you back off to 2 - 6 days which ties into the funds of everything posted above.
 
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