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Grouser OTT Tracks
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I've got a set of Loegering steel tracks that I run on my 773, actually the same set I had on my 743 years ago, never had a bit of problems with tracks holding up. I run standard hd sidewall tires on mine and never had problems with tires shredding. It is a pain when you occasionaly have a flat, but not that big of a deal, as long as you have the rachet tool with you and not at the shop, which is usually the case for me. The tracks help tremendously in mud and on slopes, like a smaller dozer with them on. I usually run tracks from fall to spring, unless we have have special job. Like somebody said 30-45 minutes to put on after you've done it a couple times, but not that bad of a job. Our 743 had the same arms and frame you have and we had to have a boom stop to prevent the tracks from hitting.
OTT in my opinion are a great cheap alternative if your not crossing pavement a lot. I'm thinking of going with the VTS on my next skid, but for now (OTT)$1,000 vs (VTS)$10,000 I can keep laying down plywood for the few occasions that come about.
OTT in my opinion are a great cheap alternative if your not crossing pavement a lot. I'm thinking of going with the VTS on my next skid, but for now (OTT)$1,000 vs (VTS)$10,000 I can keep laying down plywood for the few occasions that come about.
norrodbh
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I ran a set of loegering trail blazers on my s-175. Absolutely a must have in your bag of tricks.
I got myself into trouble a couple of times when I had to go get my tracks and drag them over a hill side to get my self back out.
Having the tracks allowed me to take on projects I would have had to turn down without them. Granted they are not the same as a tracked loader, but I didn't own a tracked loader
It got really good at putting them on, and taking them on. I could install the pair in about 25 minutes, and drop them in 5.
Catching a nail is a hassle with the tracks on, but it's just another thing that can, and will go wrong on the job site.
bobcatmechanic
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grousers are the way to go they are heavy dutyt and stand up to abuse just keep them tight and you wont have troubles with them alot of guys dont do this and thats why they slip foam fills are highly advised and if you are going to put them on and leave them on get some bobcat severe duty tires or comparible and run them they last a long time just dont run them in the mud by them selves they tend to ball up and not clean out but logreings are junk light tracks that bend easy and the bolt on track systems are very expensive and useually require you to cut one of the chains off the front or back set of tires in the chain case area in the center of the machine but keep them tight and go with grousers i work for a dealership and the grousers hold up well even used grousers are good
norrodbh
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These loegerings didn't use chains. They are heavy duty and serve me well.
Seen here https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showpost.php?p=3461&postcount=57
skidspec
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Why don't you look at the Loegeering VTS System for your skis steer. It will cost you considerably more money, but you will have a much better system than over the tire tracks. It will convert your skid to a true rubber track machine, but will still give you the versatility of a skid. You can swap back to tires in less than an hour. The VTS system also has a suspension, so the ride is better than most dedicated rubber tracks on the market.
I ran a set of loegering trail blazers on my s-175. Absolutely a must have in your bag of tricks.
I got myself into trouble a couple of times when I had to go get my tracks and drag them over a hill side to get my self back out.
Having the tracks allowed me to take on projects I would have had to turn down without them. Granted they are not the same as a tracked loader, but I didn't own a tracked loader
It got really good at putting them on, and taking them on. I could install the pair in about 25 minutes, and drop them in 5.
Catching a nail is a hassle with the tracks on, but it's just another thing that can, and will go wrong on the job site.
My experience is the same. I have a set for a 465 CASE they are the Trail Blazer type. I don't use them often but when you need them, you need them no way around it. The machines increased ability with the tracks is really unbelievable. The PITA factor is also there. Mostly with the install and getting a flat. However for the relatively inexpensive costs involved with purchasing them, it doesn't take many hours to get your money back. I also bought a VTS system for my 440. So now I have the ability to track both machines if needed.
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NateV
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We have a set of Grouser tracks for our Case. Like others have said they add a lot of good things to the machine. You can drive over pavement with them on and theres not much damage. Just dont turn and if you have to take it easy. We run ours on the factory tires. It could take some time to put on if you havent done it for a while and only takes about 10 min to take off. The hardest part is getting the right amount of tension on them. We just got done with a sewer job and if we didnt have the tracks theres no way we could of done the job.
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landtekk
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Grouser tracks
I'm on my second pair of grousers and think that they are great. Well worth the money, considering cost of other options.scott
I'm on my second pair of grousers and think that they are great. Well worth the money, considering cost of other options.scott
mxridernrth
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Mclaren Diamond
I've got the Mclaren Diamond tracks and I can tell you that they make all the difference on hills and in muddy terrain. I can climb up stuff that I'd never be able to touch otherwise.
The only problem is when you have to go on pavement. They can leave marks. I use ratchet straps to put them on and it goes pretty quick with one person - about 1/2 hour. I'd be faster if I did it all the time.
I'll post some pics if I can figure out how.
I've got the Mclaren Diamond tracks and I can tell you that they make all the difference on hills and in muddy terrain. I can climb up stuff that I'd never be able to touch otherwise.
The only problem is when you have to go on pavement. They can leave marks. I use ratchet straps to put them on and it goes pretty quick with one person - about 1/2 hour. I'd be faster if I did it all the time.
I'll post some pics if I can figure out how.
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Bob Horrell
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I had grouser OTT tracks on my S250 and liked them a lot. Then I went to the VTS system. The difference between a wheeled skidsteer and the over the tire tracks is doubled with the VTS system in almost all conditions. The only thing I didn't like about the OTT tracks was that it put your bucket up higher so the front edge sloped down when finish grading, which makes it want to dig in. Both systems work good but the VTS is much better. Of course it costs more, but I got my money back quickly in being able to do jobs I wouldn't normally do.
mxridernrth
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Thanks Countryboy!
I must be too new because apparently I'm not allowed to post attachments .:beatsme
What Bob says is true though, I need to run a spacer plate which doesn't let the bucket go completely flat. Subsequently grading is a bit of a pain.
I almost bid on an ASV RC50 on ebay today; it went for $17600. The wife wasn't too happy though and put the brakes on that deal - for now. It would be nice to have the Loegering VTS system, but for the price of a set I can almost get a used tracked machine.
What to do?
I must be too new because apparently I'm not allowed to post attachments .:beatsme
What Bob says is true though, I need to run a spacer plate which doesn't let the bucket go completely flat. Subsequently grading is a bit of a pain.
I almost bid on an ASV RC50 on ebay today; it went for $17600. The wife wasn't too happy though and put the brakes on that deal - for now. It would be nice to have the Loegering VTS system, but for the price of a set I can almost get a used tracked machine.
What to do?
Countryboy
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You need one more post before you're off your probationary period, which will allow you to start new threads. You should already be able to post pictures in existing threads though. Either way, after your probationary period everything should work out. Just let me know if it doesn't.
BruceJ
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Re:Grousers
Had mine for as long as this thread....on my 863. Use them for very steep property i live on moving logs etc.Think they are great, added weight keeps BC stable and lift more. Does put strain on motor as i blew head gasket recently.Mind you, i lift some heavy stuff and dig heavy soils(clay)..
Had mine for as long as this thread....on my 863. Use them for very steep property i live on moving logs etc.Think they are great, added weight keeps BC stable and lift more. Does put strain on motor as i blew head gasket recently.Mind you, i lift some heavy stuff and dig heavy soils(clay)..
dirt worx
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Do you need spacers for the bucket or wheels on the 40xt or 60xt?
skidsteer.ca
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For easy on and off you can't beat the tracksplus.com line of tracks because they weight 1/2 as much. (and cost 1/2 as much too.)
Life span has been pretty good at 1500 plus hour and at 250 to 300 lbs per side you can manhandle them.
They can be adjusted 1 inch at every pad and any pad can be unbolted and replaced should it ever be required.
I have used Logeuring, Grouser and McClaren and still have a set of the bar tracks from both Mclaren and Grouser as well as a set of tracks plus on my loaders. I'll always need one set of bar tracks for winter use (Mclaren has the advantage there)
My loader run tracks all summer long, rarely do I take them off and I have not seen any problems with distroying tires, rim or axels, bearing etc. imo the only reason not to run them is your going to work on concrete etc for more then a day or two.
They are a great asset anytime you are in the dirt. Protecting your tires, increasing your pushing power, your machine will cross mud like it weights 1/2 as much. not as good as a ctl, but at a much lower purchase price and lower maintenance cost too.
Ken
Life span has been pretty good at 1500 plus hour and at 250 to 300 lbs per side you can manhandle them.
They can be adjusted 1 inch at every pad and any pad can be unbolted and replaced should it ever be required.
I have used Logeuring, Grouser and McClaren and still have a set of the bar tracks from both Mclaren and Grouser as well as a set of tracks plus on my loaders. I'll always need one set of bar tracks for winter use (Mclaren has the advantage there)
My loader run tracks all summer long, rarely do I take them off and I have not seen any problems with distroying tires, rim or axels, bearing etc. imo the only reason not to run them is your going to work on concrete etc for more then a day or two.
They are a great asset anytime you are in the dirt. Protecting your tires, increasing your pushing power, your machine will cross mud like it weights 1/2 as much. not as good as a ctl, but at a much lower purchase price and lower maintenance cost too.
Ken
I have had grouser tracks on several machines...they work great...once you get the idea of putting them on and off it's not that bad..some jobs i could simply not do without them...in my area there is alot of tree farms ..they all run tracks when digging added traction and stability...some machines do require wheel spacers and or boom stops...by the way i have a set of four wheel spacers if anybody is looking...