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land rake?
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Welder Dave
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I think it's called a skeleton bucket. Used for rocks and bush, etc. so you don't remover any dirt. If you have a question about them just ask.
There's roughly 3000sqm of a field that's got to be derocked. Rocks range in the size 10cm to 60cm diameter. Would this skeleton bucket be the most appropriate for this kind of job?
Also a little help for the linkage...miller quick hitch for a volvo bl71 :
pin diameter of current buckets is 45
pin centre to centre 300
Width between ear plates 170
I got specs back from the manufacturer who's got two sizes for width between ear plates....170 and 150. Is that normal or are my existing buckets well worn out and measures only 170 between ear plates?
Many thanks
spangles
Also a little help for the linkage...miller quick hitch for a volvo bl71 :
pin diameter of current buckets is 45
pin centre to centre 300
Width between ear plates 170
I got specs back from the manufacturer who's got two sizes for width between ear plates....170 and 150. Is that normal or are my existing buckets well worn out and measures only 170 between ear plates?
Many thanks
spangles
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Welder Dave
Senior Member
Don't know about the mounts but is this field cultivated? A skeleton bucket should work great for a worked up field. Other option would be a pull type rock picker behind a tractor. Is the skeleton bucket going to go on a front loader bucket or a backhoe? Loader bucket would be faster.
There's fruit trees, around 2 yrs old on the field. There's enough space between them for the backhoe to fit. The pull type rock picker behind a tractor would have been ideal but impossible to get this here - Derocking is done by removing the large rocks with a d6 and the remaining rocks are split into small pieces by another machine. The waiting list is roughly a year for that service.
The skeleton bucket will go on the backhoe. Yes loader bucket would definitely be faster but cost so much more than a backhoe skeleton bucket.
Many thanks
Spangles
The skeleton bucket will go on the backhoe. Yes loader bucket would definitely be faster but cost so much more than a backhoe skeleton bucket.
Many thanks
Spangles
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It doesn't look like you have enough soil to use a rake like that, I don't think you'd have anything left if you were able to get it to penetrate the soil. Plus if the soil is bare it may be gone in the next rain storm, probably why they go to the trouble of splitting the small rocks. A wide backhoe bucket with the teeth slanted back would do just as well to pull the rocks to a windrow. Are you going to remove the rocks then? Looks like a lot of trips.
In the rocky soils around here rock rakes and rock pickers are used. Here's a rake, you can search rock rakes on https://wausau.craigslist.org/ to see how it's done. Nobody would bother with soil like that here though, not worth the trouble.
In the rocky soils around here rock rakes and rock pickers are used. Here's a rake, you can search rock rakes on https://wausau.craigslist.org/ to see how it's done. Nobody would bother with soil like that here though, not worth the trouble.
Yes, the rocks are going to be removed to go on a dirt access road. the bigger ones will be set along the perimeter. There is enough soil for the rake to penetrate - it has been ploughed. They normally split the smaller rocks as they don't know where to pile em up or farmer can't afford/not financial sense, to have it taken off by rock trucks. Thanks for the link. It's what they use here to align the rocks after the D6 has gone through first, then use a bell loader to remove the larger ones before finishing with rock splitting.
Totally makes sense not to bother with soil like that when you own a few dozen hectares but that's not the case here and got to do with what's available. Volcanic soil/land
Many thanks
Spangles
Totally makes sense not to bother with soil like that when you own a few dozen hectares but that's not the case here and got to do with what's available. Volcanic soil/land
Many thanks
Spangles
With the number of rocks I'm seeing I'm wondering if one of those conveyor loaders they use to load millings with wouldn't be faster? I think anything you use is going to have to stop every 10 feet or so to remove the rock that have been collected, the conveyor would do it on the fly. After a pass to remove the surface stones you could go at it with a Harley style power rake and bring subsoil stones to the surface and then collect those.
hvy 1ton
Senior Member
What about picking the largest rocks out hiring someone with a pto stone crusher to take care of the rest?
I think you're on the right track with the backhoe mounted rake, for the are involved and equipment at hand.
He's in the middle of the Indian Ocean with a relatively small plot, so rockpickers and conveyors are out of the question. I posted the pic to give him an idea of how it's done around here.
Hvy1ton, he says in #5 they have something similar, just doesn't seem to want to wait for it, and or pay for it.
He's in the middle of the Indian Ocean with a relatively small plot, so rockpickers and conveyors are out of the question. I posted the pic to give him an idea of how it's done around here.
Hvy1ton, he says in #5 they have something similar, just doesn't seem to want to wait for it, and or pay for it.
oh my...what a beautiful piece of iron. Non existent around my parts though. I actually thought about building some kind of conveyor...gave up on that idea.
Yes you are right, most likely will have to stop every 3 metres or so, pile it up then continue then come back and scoop it up all with the loader to be dumped on the dirt road.
The plot has been ploughed once and that brought up all the stones/rocks that you can see on the pics.
Many thanks
Spangles
pto stone crusher can be hired but only if you take the whole service of D6, Bell loader, then tractor with pto stone crusher. A year on the waiting list before that kind of magic happen. Idiots...
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Spangles
I racked my brains and could not come up with anything else other than this option to get it done unless I want to wait a year on the waiting list and that's depending on if there's rain or not cause they don't work if there's rain... :/
Many thanks
Spangles
hvy 1ton
Senior Member
Well, if we're down to the tools you can use i think you will be much happier with a skeleton bucket on the front of your backhoe. You'd have to have a dump truck/trailer follow you around using a rake on hoe to get anything done. Otherwise it's pick up 1-2 of the larger rocks and drive back to the beginning of the row and make a pile. This guy had a custom rock picker built. Won't help you much, but somebody might find it interesting. Should also cut down on the complaints about the new forum format for a while. https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/t...5097&start=1&highlight=Picker&highlightmode=1