Well not ugly, as in twin-engine Euclid ugly, just different. I'm sure the unobstructed view is very nice for grade work. I was just thinking the other day as we were doing some dirt work with the D6R and D6K2 automatic control dozer how far we've come since I followed my father around when he had a couple of 17A's. Land was cheap, diesel was cheap, and he bought a new Ford pickup every other year because they wore out in two years. Don't want to go back to those days, either.