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Just some work pics

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Muddy site today. Transfered from over the road trucker to my truck and trailer at a gas station 1/4 mile away. Over the road guys don't seem to like it when you drag their trucks around in the mud. Went to the site. RT drove right in. Had to back in off a narrow dirt road, made that, but was stuck on the slime on top. Used the RT to drag the truck and trailer into place, then set the electrical pad.
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More pictures- just playing around.
Dropped trailer with the over the road trucker in the background
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Setting units in the rain the other day




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Had a nice wide corner to drop trailer by the jobsite, this is as we were loading up to leave. Yes, the old International has a bent bumper - no, I didn't do it on this job as I was dragging it around.

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Tree job today. Big old sycamore, had two big main branches right from the ground. Was solid all the way up, even had water running out of some of it. Most of it was 75-95' away.20170124_111121.jpg 20170124_111132.jpg 20170124_111121.jpg 20170124_111132.jpg 20170124_134128.jpg 20170124_140402.jpg
 

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Looks fun. Was that dead stick, jib, and stinger. How similar is the dead section procedure on that p&h to your 300.

Customer has a 28t p&h with a dead stick and he always swings his jib then pulls his dead stick out with a gradall. Don't think that's the right procedure but it's his crane.
 

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I did the tree with main boom+dead section=127'. 100' live main + 27' dead stick, 4 section boom. The dead stick in the P&H is a remote power pin, kind of similar to the old grove remote power pin ( mid 80's tms 760 style).

In the one manbasket picture you can see two hydraulic cylinders sticking out of the side of the boom. Those do the locking of the booms together (wrench pin-jack on a grove). There's another cylinder clear at the end, beyond those cylinders, that sets vertically. It does the vertical pin in the bottom of the boom. It has a spring that pops it back up.

You install it all by idiot lights in the cab and switches. I still read through the list in the book and do it step by step, so I don't mess it up. It's not a real intuitive system, I think you could do it out of order really easily, and bend the cylinders on the side of the boom. One side cylinder was bent when I purchased the crane. It's faster than putting dead stick in my 300, but only because the grove telescopes so slow, especially cold, that and you don't have to get in and out of the cab.
 

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Dismantling a old grove winch. I needed to see how it was put together, because we blew the seals on the front winch on the rt, when the hydraulic shop reassembled the swivel wrong. Lots of pieces, but I think we can change the seals in the one on the crane, without removing it from the crane. The book says to remove it from the crane, and I think the rear winch would need to, because the counterweight would be in the way. Looks like the front one we can do in the crane.

There are two oil seals on the motor side of the winches, one on each side of the big bearing in the first picture. One of those two is the one blown in my winch on the rt.



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Playground rock. Rock and rigging was around 4,300- 65' radius. Center of gravity was off center because of the way the rock was built, so we added a come-a-long, and few extra shackles on the other side to make it pick halfway level. Extra shackles went on the closer pocket to the crane, I took the picture before we had them in.

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Trees again Friday. Big old oak and a dead elm. The big oak filled a roll off container, of the trunks they couldn't chip. Bottom pieces were 4' across, think I was showing about 4,000 on the scale with the biggest piece. It was the trees on the other side of the house. The tree in the front yard didn't come down, I had to pick the cut off branches over it to lay them down in the street. I was around 80-85' to the trunks. There's no access to the back yard, power lines, fences and a busy street. There was 25-30' or so from the outer tip branches to the power lines, but that's a big line.
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Oh-- that's the fun part of trees. You don't know what it weighs until they cut it off,and if it weighs more than you can handle, you're along for the ride. Trees are one of the most dangerous jobs with a crane.

That said, you kind of learn about what a piece will weigh, just by looking. I try to leave myself a pretty good cushion on my capacity also. If I think a chunk of main trunk will go 2,000lbs, I'm wanting 3,500-4,000lbs of capacity. You have to have some wiggle room to deal with shock load from them cutting it off. I try to put just enough pressure on a limb to lift it, but not too much that it goes shooting up when they cut it, because that shock loads you too, when it springs back.

You always err on the side of cutting too small of pieces, the new tree guys always want you to take 1/2 the tree (time is $). I will make the call from the cab on how much tree to cut, the guys I work with a lot, know and understand that, its a big trust thing when they're up in the tree with a saw and buzzing through a 4' oak. They don't want it in their teeth either.
 

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That's interesting. Is it usual for the guys to go up in the man basket? Around here, if the access is tight they climb the tree and take it down branch by branch.

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The last picture in post 268 shows the tree trimmer in the tree. We do whatever is quickest. I sometimes have them go up in the basket in really dead trees that aren't safe to climb, or to just get a place cleared out to get started. The crane really helps when the tree has to be removed, and there's no access for their skid loader or any other equipment. They can just rig me on the tree and I bring the pieces out of the backyard etc. The tree trunk (oak) in that series, the first 40' of trunk was probably 12,000lbs of wood. It would take a lot of time to cut that all down to pieces you could carry out of the backyard by hand.
 

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Nice work Crane Operator ! That work can be tricky & risky in many ways .
This is probably a regional thing , we have so many tree service companies in my area I generally just advise customer to call them on a tree close to a home , power line , etc .

They send out couple trucks with chipper & 3 or 4 men . 20 something year old climber runs up the tree & takes it down piece at a time while the ground crew carts it off similar as in Cmark's post .
Wish I was 20 something again :)
 

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Hollow core precast concrete this week. The biggest piece was supposed to be only 7,000lbs, They showed up with a full slab for the one patio- 7' wide 30' long. I knew there was no way it was only 7,000- it was 21,500lbs. I had to only run out 100' boom, and squeak it over the iron with short rigging. I set the rest with 127' boom. It was a little late when we quit monday:).


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Set some precast culverts for the county. Down a little blacktop road and under the railroad tracks. No where to turn the truck around to get out, so I just picked up the trailer and pointed it the other direction before loading. And just so everyone knows I'm not perfect- I was a little hard on the western star bumper in the yard. There's some old rims laying on the ground by the tree where we turn to back down by the shop, I felt it hit and knew what it was right away. I pushed the bumper back with the forklift and welded it back up, you really can't see it with the oversize load signs- and it makes the guys feel better when I mess things up sometimes. I keep telling myself that, but a new bumper is probably headed my way. 20170201_095119.jpg 20170201_095545.jpg 20170201_111551.jpg 20170201_123215.jpg
 

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Chimney cap, and a crusher. Chimney cap was under 3,000. The crusher was 22,000lbs. Glad I don't have a de-rated boom truck;). Just teasing tradesman. 20170206_111917.jpg 20170206_140635.jpg 20170206_141138.jpg 20170206_143358.jpg
 

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ha ha ! I've done a chimney cap like that at 2000 lbs but I'm afraid i'd be passing the crusher cone on to some-one else. I have done a disassembled crusher cone, I think the largest pick was around 6000 lbs. I see your in the yellow on that box culvert, next time don't be afraid to ask for help, maybe before I get my derate done :D
 

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Honestly didn't notice the pat bar showing in the picture- they were 16-17,000 lbs box culverts, they over dug on my side of the road way too far. I think I was actually good for another 8'-10' radius with that weight (it will do 38' or so with 16k). It seems like that rt hits yellow really early.

There are times when the truck crane really shines- I did the chimney cap and the crusher back to back today, it's nice not to have to go back to the shop for a bigger crane. I've done 30,000 before with the small truck crane, but 25,000 is really about all you want. With 30,000 you need to be right beside it.

In rental- no one pays for more crane than they need, and I try not to send more than they need.

A Grove I used to run had the LED light bar- add on- on the top of the cab. A fellow operator- after running it one day - dismantling a cement plant: "yellow- h$((- that light bar looked like a christmas tree, when they cut the last leg out".
 

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I had a fuel tank to move last year, one of those newer above ground double walled concrete ones. Due to a screwup, when I arrived, we found it had been filled with fuel, gasoline no less. Point being, 28,000 lbs for a 30 ton boom truck of course meant some very careful positioning, as my radius was so small.
 
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