Tl12v2

Xcavating · Aug 14, 2016

We have a New TL12V2 out on a rent to own for a couple months. We like the machine a lot. Ride, power and Cab features are a huge upgrade from the TL150s we have owned.

I know these machines are all new and wonder what some of you other TL12V2 owners might be experiencing.

Frustrated we still have not received an owners manual so some of the technical items on the machine are vague to us. We actually had the salesman and Tak field rep come out and even the Tak rep had limited knowledge about the machine.

Our Def gauge seems to not be going down though we are burning def slowly per our refill procedure.

We pulled a code after about two weeks that we think is related to the fuel throttle dial which doesn't seem to affect us using the machine. Dealer is coming out this week to fix that.

What issues have you guys had? What opinions do you have on the machine? I'm 98% sure we are gonna buy the machine, but still would like to get as much feedback as possible.

KSSS · Aug 14, 2016

I had one coming to demo but TK is having issue with the dedicated H pattern machines. So not sure when I will get one to run. I have not heard of anyone that has run one besides you yet.

skata · Aug 14, 2016

out of curiousity, what other machines do you have to compare to? i have a gehl ctl 70 (takeuchi tl 140) and was thinking about these new taks.

Xcavating · Aug 15, 2016

KSSS said:
I had one coming to demo but TK is having issue with the dedicated H pattern machines. So not sure when I will get one to run. I have not heard of anyone that has run one besides you yet.

Our machine has a pattern changer under the seat. Came with the typical Tak European control pattern but we flipped it to the "Case" control pattern we are accustomed to. Previous Tak machines had to have a kit installed to switch the control patter, Which made it perminant.

Xcavating · Aug 15, 2016

skata said:
out of curiousity, what other machines do you have to compare to? i have a gehl ctl 70 (takeuchi tl 140) and was thinking about these new taks.

We owned 2 TL150s and also own a Gehl CTL80 which is the same as a TL150 basically. Power on the V2 is significantly greater!

KSSS · Aug 15, 2016

I wanted a dedicated CASE pattern machine which is what their plan was to offer in addition to the pattern changer option. It appears that has changed and they will not offer that due to some issues that came up when trying to build my machine. The pattern changer has some concessions in controllability that I am not willing to make. Komatsu initially offered it in the late 90's and it did not work well then. TK it sounds like is trying to improve upon that but are having to work around some issues that are inherent when you don't own the technology.

I am not interested in trying to learn ISO at this stage in the game. So I will give it some time, and see what happens.

skata · Aug 16, 2016

KSSS said:
I wanted a dedicated CASE pattern machine which is what their plan was to offer in addition to the pattern changer option. It appears that has changed and they will not offer that due to some issues that came up when trying to build my machine. The pattern changer has some concessions in controllability that I am not willing to make. Komatsu initially offered it in the late 90's and it did not work well then. TK it sounds like is trying to improve upon that but are having to work around some issues that are inherent when you don't own the technology.

I am not interested in trying to learn ISO at this stage in the game. So I will give it some time, and see what happens.

not sure i follow what you're saying. there is a pattern changer. what issues do you see exactly with flipping a switch and going to case style controls?

KSSS · Aug 16, 2016

Because putting a pattern changer on a pilot controlled machine does not work real well, that is why everyone replumbs the machine for the desired pattern rather than putting a pattern changer on it. It was explained to me that all psi requirements must be made the same for it to work, however the machines don't respond real well like that without shuttle valves which effects controllability. CASE, CAT, TK, Kubota everyone except Komatsu who first tried it went to replumb rather than putting a pattern changer on their pilot controlled machines. EH is of course different.

That is why TK wanted to offer a dedicated H machine, dedicated ISO machine and the pattern changer (I would guess for rental customers) in their pilot controlled machines. Otherwise they just could have offered a pattern changer and be done with it. However they recognized that the machine control system is much better when it is dedicated rather than run through a pattern changer.

skata · Oct 3, 2016

KSSS said:
Because putting a pattern changer on a pilot controlled machine does not work real well, that is why everyone replumbs the machine for the desired pattern rather than putting a pattern changer on it. It was explained to me that all psi requirements must be made the same for it to work, however the machines don't respond real well like that without shuttle valves which effects controllability. CASE, CAT, TK, Kubota everyone except Komatsu who first tried it went to replumb rather than putting a pattern changer on their pilot controlled machines. EH is of course different.

That is why TK wanted to offer a dedicated H machine, dedicated ISO machine and the pattern changer (I would guess for rental customers) in their pilot controlled machines. Otherwise they just could have offered a pattern changer and be done with it. However they recognized that the machine control system is much better when it is dedicated rather than run through a pattern changer.

you may have a point.

on my gehl ctl70 (tl140), i noticed the joy sticks were not even(one is more forward than the other), and it may have to do with the original configuration.

i was looking at the new tl10v2, and noticed in this cab pic that the joysticks are not even. would they be that way still with the case style controls?

KSSS · Oct 4, 2016

It shouldn't matter regardless of the pattern. They may have had a reason for this but the pattern should not be one of the them. I spent like 20 minutes in the ISO TL12V2. The machine is huge. I did not spent enough time in it to form much of an opinion. However I would say that for a machine this big, TK should have given it more electric/hydraulic switches on the controls. It has the power and flow to run about any attachment, but it does no good if you don't have enough buttons to control the attachment.

movindirt · Oct 4, 2016

skata said:
you may have a point.

on my gehl ctl70 (tl140), i noticed the joy sticks were not even(one is more forward than the other), and it may have to do with the original configuration.

i was looking at the new tl10v2, and noticed in this cab pic that the joysticks are not even. would they be that way still with the case style controls?

Here I thought that was a picture of their website till I saw the footprint on the seat

I put some hours on a regular TL10 and didn't notice any difference in operating it with the controls offset like that.

Mark13 · Oct 5, 2016

skata said:
you may have a point.

on my gehl ctl70 (tl140), i noticed the joy sticks were not even(one is more forward than the other), and it may have to do with the original configuration.

i was looking at the new tl10v2, and noticed in this cab pic that the joysticks are not even. would they be that way still with the case style controls?

movindirt said:
Here I thought that was a picture of their website till I saw the footprint on the seat I put some hours on a regular TL10 and didn't notice any difference in operating it with the controls offset like that.

That is the picture from their website with the footprint lol.

My TL230 controls are uneven like that. I bought it setup as H (Case) pattern and switched it back to ISO but I don't remember if the controls were even or uneven when it was setup as H Pattern.

05rammer · Oct 7, 2016

They are just a different angle not so much uneven

rockman · Nov 6, 2016

just played on 1 yesterday , real nice toy ,
just trying to sort / design a nice 4in1 bucket for it

rockman · Dec 13, 2016

rockman said:
just played on 1 yesterday , real nice toy ,
just trying to sort / design a nice 4in1 bucket for it

ended up getting the bucket sorted

skata · Dec 14, 2016

wow. now that's a bucket!
what application are you using it for?

rockman · Dec 14, 2016

For doing house site benching but mainly for attachment work, big horsepower / flow / pressure

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