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Help on joining the Local 825

snicker3001

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Hello my name is Luis and i would like to ask a few questions on how to become a Heavy equimpment operator for the 825. Ever since i was young i always loved heavy equimpment, my father was an operator and when i started working witha marine construction company i sat inside of a machine for the first time and fell in love. The job closed down and no other place will really hire someone who is 19 with very little experience so Union is the way. i want to join the apprentice program but have no idea how or when they have their interviews. if anyone could give me tips on how or what to do to get closer to reach my goals i would appreciate it very much.
 

catskinner 10

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Jul 26, 2008
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Metro-East IL.
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Retired Operator/Master Mechanic 55Yr Member IUOE
Welcome snicker,

You sound motivated and that's a Great Start.

Why not go to the local or at least call and find out
If there accepting application at this time?

Tom
 

Turbo21835

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Oct 20, 2007
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Road Dog
A quick search pulls this up. http://www.iuoe825.org/home/join/apprenticeship/

As it says, apprentices are taken on an as needed basis. This is based on retirement, work, and need projections. They will not take more apprentices than they can handle. Basically, they need to make sure there is enough need to get apprentices through their required hours in a timely manner, and not starve trying to do so.

Of note, prior experience will be of no consequence, and will not give you any preference. The Department Of Labor has requirements for apprentice programs of all trades. It will be a points based system. First thing you usually do is take what is the equivalent of a GED knowledge test. Once you are completed with that, there will be other things, some of which may be an industry related test. This is a points system in the name of "fairness." It is established so there is no preferential treatment to members relatives. It is also established to meet certain diversity requirements set forth by the DOL. There are only a few ways to get additional points in these systems, The first is to be a US Military veteran. The second is to be a minority, be that sex or race based. Third, not positive on this, may be the amount of times you have applied to the program, meaning you applied for this year, and did not make the cut, you came back at the proper time and applied for next years.

Contact them via the information provided on the site link. They will have a rough idea on when they expect their next apprenticeship "class" to begin the process. Im glad you are interested, there are not a lot that are interested in the trade these days for the right reason. I see many who see the big dollar signs, and think its just like a video game. That type ends up being mediocre at best. They water down the trade, and they tend to be the type of members who are willing to overlook contract requirements to keep working. These deal cutters undermine everyones working conditions over time. They all jump at the opportunity to save their skin. Unfortunately, the contractor then expects everyone to accept that deal. Simple as this, Top notch skills you gain from training and time in the machine, uphold your end of the contract, expect the same from the contractor, and Ill be proud to call anyone that does that brother, or sister.
 

BlazinSS934

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Long Island, NY
I went thru the whole process unless you have a relative or a connection it ain't happening. Just look at the proximity of 825 to local 14,15&138. They only give books to sons and nephews unfortunately. Guys don't retire either, they die in the Iron keeping young guys from working. That's why I went to work at a municipality


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old-iron-habit

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Retired Cons't. Supt./Hospitals
I went thru the whole process unless you have a relative or a connection it ain't happening. Just look at the proximity of 825 to local 14,15&138. They only give books to sons and nephews unfortunately. Guys don't retire either, they die in the Iron keeping young guys from working. That's why I went to work at a municipality


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I never found that to be true. They don't "give" books to anyone. That ended 30 years ago. Our local has only given one journeyman card to a person that tested out in the last 15 years. No one else has Passed all the tests to start as a journeyman without taking training. Yes, there is a certain amount of father and sons in the trades. They come thru the program like everyone else. Do they have a leg up. Maybe. They know when the door is open and apply when they need apprentices. Buy and large the vast majority of the apprentices come in of the street. Stay informed, make yourself known, and you will get in when the door opens. Retirement? I find the oppisite true. Everyone I know is retired by sixty.
 

Buckethead

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Apr 4, 2007
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Waterfront
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Operator
Guys don't retire either, they die in the Iron keeping young guys from working. That's why I went to work at a municipality


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The op asked about 825. 825 is totally different than 138, there is no seniority.
 

BlazinSS934

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I'm not looking to start a war lol. I live in Long Island I tried local 138,15&14. Got no where


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Turbo21835

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I'm not looking to start a war lol. I live in Long Island I tried local 138,15&14. Got no where


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Hate to say it, you didn't follow the program details, or were far down on the list for one reason or another. As I stated, Apprenticeship programs are to follow certain Department Of Labor rules so the good old boy network of "being sold a book" no longer happens. Apprenticeship program admittance is really not much different than admittance to a college program
 

Turbo21835

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FYI, check 825s Facebook page, they are accepting 250 applications for next springs apprenticeship class. You better move quick
 
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