Kenworth Thread for 848--849--850

JDOFMEMI · Jan 14, 2016

Sidney43 said:
OK - dumb question. Why does an apparently good truck get stripped down to cab and frame and maybe frame only. Obviously could be a blown engine, or tranny and too much cost -vs- value of truck. Or maybe not enough logs to justify using an off road truck, or the haul will only utilize highway trucks and so on. But, is there essentially no market for these trucks, or just too old, cracked frames and so on??

Well, I am sure that there could be many reasons, but I suspect that the stripped ones are organ donors to keep the runners running. The older they get the harder it is to source parts, so cannibalism becomes the order of the day.

I have a yard full of stripped Volvo A-35's that keep those with life left in them running. In a good economy, parts are bought, but when times are tough, like the 7 years following 2008, if a truck parked for long, it was soon missing parts to keep others going. Then they pass the point of no return where it would be too much money in parts all at one time to rebuild it, so it gets picked to a bare frame and then cut for scrap.

Vigilant · Jan 14, 2016

ben46a said:
View attachment 148291 hope this works... Is this the truck?

That's it. Thanks. Anyone seen a truck set up like this, or know anything about this contraption?

RCP57 · Jan 14, 2016

I'm not sure I see what you're asking about? Are you referring to the water tank?

Redwood Climber · Jan 14, 2016

Contraption Behind Cab.

Vigilant said:
That's it. Thanks. Anyone seen a truck set up like this, or know anything about this contraption?

I am certainly not an expert on heavy trucks, but many of the old off highway trucks had a hydraulic (water) retarder. They needed a large water tank for the retarder so they put a large tank behind the cab. If you look closely you can see the tank goes to the other side of the cab....got to hold several hundred gallons.
By the way that is a beautiful load of Redwood logs. That's got to be at least 20' high. The loader operator is a real artist. I don't see any wrappers....there has to be. On a load like that with stubby (Seattle?) stakes you'd want at least two maybe three gut wrappers.....Man do I miss the old growth....that 1st truck is a Pete......second a Mack?
The feller there getting a crick in his neck is that a scale stick in his hand? Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

Doug1966 · Jan 15, 2016

Hi if you look really hard there are 4 wrappers on it, 2 for each top log. Thanks Doug.

Vigilant · Jan 15, 2016

Redwood Climber said:
I am certainly not an expert on heavy trucks, but many of the old off highway trucks had a hydraulic (water) retarder. They needed a large water tank for the retarder so they put a large tank behind the cab. If you look closely you can see the tank goes to the other side of the cab....got to hold several hundred gallons.
By the way that is a beautiful load of Redwood logs. That's got to be at least 20' high. The loader operator is a real artist. I don't see any wrappers....there has to be. On a load like that with stubby (Seattle?) stakes you'd want at least two maybe three gut wrappers.....Man do I miss the old growth....that 1st truck is a Pete......second a Mack?
The feller there getting a crick in his neck is that a scale stick in his hand? Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

First truck is a KW. Follow the Facebook link above and grab a magnifying glass.

075 · Jan 16, 2016

Redwood Climber said:
I am certainly not an expert on heavy trucks, but many of the old off highway trucks had a hydraulic (water) retarder. They needed a large water tank for the retarder so they put a large tank behind the cab. If you look closely you can see the tank goes to the other side of the cab....got to hold several hundred gallons.
By the way that is a beautiful load of Redwood logs. That's got to be at least 20' high. The loader operator is a real artist. I don't see any wrappers....there has to be. On a load like that with stubby (Seattle?) stakes you'd want at least two maybe three gut wrappers.....Man do I miss the old growth....that 1st truck is a Pete......second a Mack?
The feller there getting a crick in his neck is that a scale stick in his hand? Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

You are close with the water tank but .The water from the tank runs onto the brake drums to cool them not into a retarder. Never have heard of a water cooled retarder on any off the trucks that I have driven

Blk prince · Jan 17, 2016

075,just heard of Jim's passing.Pretty sad

075 · Jan 17, 2016

Blk prince said:
075,just heard of Jim's passing.Pretty sad

It was quite a shock to all of us no one expected it. He will be missed, quite the character and very entertaining

camptramp · Mar 31, 2016

Boulder Bill , Mars Logging , Franklin River Div. 1st picture 850-Kenworth on Kildonan M/L . 2nd picture 1974 850 Kenworth on Franklin River M/L.

camptramp · Apr 24, 2016

Boulder Bill , R.G.Daines 848 Kenworth at Kitimat B.C. 4th picture is an 849 K/W .

camptramp · May 12, 2016

Boulder Bill

Vigilant · May 13, 2016

Thanks, Boulder Bill and Camptramp.

ap40rocktruck · Jun 11, 2016

Vigilant said:
First truck is a KW. Follow the Facebook link above and grab a magnifying glass.

They are both Kenworth's !

happy spring

1931 kenworth · Aug 10, 2016

Vigilant said:
That's it. Thanks. Anyone seen a truck set up like this, or know anything about this contraption?

Hi Well I was reading this post and worked at kenworth for 26 years and I heard of some trial like this. I have a friend who worked in a old camp here on Vancouver island who is 85 and remembers this set up
in the 50's it was a water retarder on the driveline that was tried by kenworth and also Hayes I believe for about 1 year maybe it was before 1956 as that is when Canadian kenworth started in BC and I have no records of any water retarders so far. But I think kenworth tried it for a year maybe before 1956 and it didn't work too well got too hot but they kept increasing the size of tank. I contacted my kenworth buddy Jim Falconer and he had an article on the water retarder so I will post it shortly.If I can get it on the site not too good at it. Just remember all truck manufacturers where trying to be the first but this one didn't fly. Will look thru my info and see if I can find this water tank on any kenworth in 1956.

camptramp · Sep 7, 2016

Jeet Sangara , Roy Saunder & Sons , Kenworths that were parked at Duke Point .

Redwood Climber · Sep 8, 2016

Water Retarder

Vigilant said:
That's it. Thanks. Anyone seen a truck set up like this, or know anything about this contraption?

These trucks were part of a fleet that Joe J. Rossi Co had for off highway log hauling out of Fort Bragg, Ca. They were a contractor for Georgia Pacific which had a large mill and oodles of acres of timberland. GP ended up buying the off hwy trucks from Rossi and they became company trucks.
They had a water retarder.....hence the large tank. If you Google Joe J. Rossi you should get the same story I found. Interesting reading.

camptramp · Sep 28, 2016

Jeet Sangara .

Shimmy1 · Oct 3, 2016

This pic has been floating around on facebook. I think it's a Kenworth, all kinds of speculation, but the headlights tell me. My question: Is this pic real? It sure looks legit, although I don't know how you would turn a corner without tipping over.

HD Mech · Oct 3, 2016

That's a legit picture all right, the truck was owned by Rayonier and it looks like the picture might have been taken on Cluxewe main near Port McNeill BC. 075 would know more I suspect.

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