Looking to buy a dump truck need some help.

Pbz · Jan 15, 2016

Hello. I am in the market for a small dump truck. I bought my skid a little over a year ago and used to pull it on a small equipment trailer w my hemi ram, but have recently purchased a larger deck over trailer thats weighs 7k lbs plus the skid weighs another 7k lbs. Plus i often take an extra attachment or 2.

I looked at an 87 international s1600 diesel w AT dump truck. Its at a city auction online so thats kind of throwing me off a bit. Also have a Nieghbor selling i think an 89 f800 gasser MT roofing truck that dumps as well. Ppl have told me to steer clear from gassers and juice brakes but ive read about some air brake conversions? The truck will mainly tow my rig but I will occasionally carry a load.

Im on a budget so I dont want to buy something I'll be fixing constantly or needs an bus engine swap for power wither. Advice greatly appreciated!

Pbz · Jan 15, 2016

Also can anyone identify this truck?

hetkind · Jan 15, 2016

I used to be a fleet mechanic for a S series International School Busses, the same chassis as the trucks. There were simple to work on and dependable, but iffy electrical systems. I have no idea what the part supply would be these days, but 30 years ago, most parts were available at the local auto/truck parts store with specialty items at the local dealership.

Howard

CM1995 · Jan 15, 2016

Welcome to the Forums Pbz!:drinkup

I would forget an air brake "conversion" on any older truck that has juice brakes - it would take more time and money than the truck would ever be worth.

That Ford in the picture has air brakes and might be a diesel, it's hard to make out the badge. The older Fords like that had a DIESEL emblem underneath the 800/700/600 if they were diesel.

The Ford is not a bad looking old truck other than the spoke wheels and no flip front hood. What year, how many miles and what are they asking?

Personally I would never own a gas engine in anything larger than a 1 ton.

Pbz · Jan 15, 2016

Gentlemen thank you for your words.

The truck in pic is up for auction on jan 26 so i havent seen it in person. My nieghbors truck i think ill pass on then. Its sat around quite a bit a recently started leaking brake fluid after being at mechanics for a year almost. What do you guys think of this one. 89k miles no ac diesel. Battery dead but truck was running when parked last year.

Pbz · Jan 15, 2016

Pbz · Jan 15, 2016

My nieghbors is a 93 f700 gasser lift/dump. Currently leaking brake fluid via a sensor he says. I'll try and get pics later if rain lets up

repowerguy · Jan 15, 2016

Old IH trucks were tough and cheap and easy to fix, but as Hetkind said wiring harnesses were shaky, but with a little work could be patched up without much drama. The Fords are good trucks also but specific parts are scarce and difficult to source. My vote, year for year would be the IH every time.

stumpjumper83 · Jan 15, 2016

Find a 88 - 98 ford f-800. Your looking for either the 7.8 ford, or a cummins preferable the 8.3, though the 5.9 is good too. Air brakes, and the 5x2 or the 7 speed trans.

Old Doug · Jan 15, 2016

I would stay away from any thing with hydraulic brakes. I work on alot of older fords and havent had a problem geting parts but i am only a hour away from a one of the bigest ford truck dealers there is. If i was in your shoes i would find a mechanic to look them over what ever he charges could save you big time. "Running when parked" and its leaking from a sensor dosent build confidence when looking at a old truck. I own some Fords and their ok but i would rather have the IH.

Shimmy1 · Jan 15, 2016

I was basically baptized in an IH. I've only experienced a couple flaws with the wiring on a S-series having ran 5 of them. Oil pressure gauges never work. Perfect spot on the left side of the dash next to the gauge bezel to put a 2" mechanical gauge and ¼" Aeroquip line to feed it. Headlight switches are second problem. Putting a 50 amp relay in the hot line to the lights fixes that.

hetkind · Jan 16, 2016

Well, when they took the IH cowl chassis and converted them into school busses, all the wires were white, and tracing was the only way to solve problems...but I was young then, and inexperienced.

Howard

Shimmy1 · Jan 16, 2016

hetkind said:
Well, when they took the IH cowl chassis and converted them into school busses, all the wires were white, and tracing was the only way to solve problems...but I was young then, and inexperienced.

Howard

Trucks are basically the same, only all wires are black. Good thing is, they're all numbered, so as long as you have a schematic it's a piece of cake.

hetkind · Jan 16, 2016

Shimmy1 said:
Trucks are basically the same, only all wires are black. Good thing is, they're all numbered, so as long as you have a schematic it's a piece of cake.

numbering and a schematic would have been nice...I once asked a senior mechanic how did he troubleshot the wiring and his response was experience.

Howard

forddieselfan · Jan 18, 2016

Here is a Ford L8000 on Craigslist for sale

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/ctd/5403858959.html

FWD · Jan 18, 2016

forddieselfan said:
Here is a Ford L8000 on Craigslist for sale

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/ctd/5403858959.html

I never heard of a powerstroke in a L series, It must be that foreign made (Brazil)? engine.

CM1995 · Jan 18, 2016

forddieselfan said:
Here is a Ford L8000 on Craigslist for sale

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/ctd/5403858959.html

Welcome to the Forums forddieselfan.

Is that your truck for sale?

mitch504 · Jan 18, 2016

FWD said:
I never heard of a powerstroke in a L series, It must be that foreign made (Brazil)? engine.

It says 7.8L which is the brazilian Ford/New Holland I6, but it also says 8 cylinders, so, my guess is, it's the 7.8 6 cylinder and the lister doesn't know the difference.

My question is, why a crankshaft hyd pump, like a mixer? If you're not plowing, or lifting the bed, why wear out the pump? I have fertilizer spreader trucks, and their spinners throw 60', plus it runs the conveyor in the bottom, and it doesn't use that big a pump, and runs it with a PTO.

Steve Frazier · Jan 19, 2016

That's how municipal trucks are set up, they run a small driveshaft through the radiator to the pump up front to power the plow and spreader. They're usually set up with a cable to engage and disengage the pump.

mitch504 · Jan 19, 2016

Thanks, Steve, for some reason I never considered a disconnectable front pump. My snow plow experience is a little limited, the last time we got enough snow for me to take a loader and clear my neighbors and my long driveways was 12/23/1989.

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