I have to agree with DR ERNIE. this is some of my waterway work done to N.R.C.S. specs.Nothing more sexy than a nice set of tracks on a finish grade. ....
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What is the Blade Float detent used for
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JPV
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This is the type of work I am talking about, no point in bringing in another piece of equipment to get ready for landscaping. As I said you have to be able to blade both ways and float has nothing to do with either. This pic was stolen from Land clearers thread in showtime. Doesn't look like a newbie to me.
This is the type of work I am talking about, no point in bringing in another piece of equipment to get ready for landscaping. As I said you have to be able to blade both ways and float has nothing to do with either. This pic was stolen from Land clearers thread in showtime. Doesn't look like a newbie to me.
Scrub Puller
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Yair . . .
In some/most soil the detent can be used when production dozing in properly constructed slots . . . that is to say when the blade is fully loaded pushing a train of dirt in the slot you can slip the blade into float and the load will come off the tractor and it will often gain a bit of speed.
The caveat is that (as I have said on here before) very few operators know how to construct and work a proper slot.
Cheers.
In some/most soil the detent can be used when production dozing in properly constructed slots . . . that is to say when the blade is fully loaded pushing a train of dirt in the slot you can slip the blade into float and the load will come off the tractor and it will often gain a bit of speed.
The caveat is that (as I have said on here before) very few operators know how to construct and work a proper slot.
Cheers.
Exactly.
RonG
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There are times when I back blade intentionally.If you have wet material and are trying to dry it out so that you can process it for some other purpose backblading it gives the surface maximum exposure for the sun and the wind to do their thing and of course if you expect more rain you can prepare it to drain properly.One of the marks of a good operator is how he leaves the job site looking at the end of the day.Ron G
johan7
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Hi , the float position can also be used in the shop when a blade ( or a bucket - track loader ) has to be raised without starting the engine . Of course you need a lifting device .
Another thing : In the 70-ies there was a Cat instruction film about dozers and scrapers . Once the pusher had contacted the pushblock it was shown that the operator put the handle in float position to follow the vertical movements of that push block when the bowl is lifted or dropped .
Although I was involved in dozer and scraper work for some decades I never told the operators to do so . With the blade in float position the pusher will lose some weight and thus traction while the rear end of the scraper will be heavier .
Have a nice day , johan7
Another thing : In the 70-ies there was a Cat instruction film about dozers and scrapers . Once the pusher had contacted the pushblock it was shown that the operator put the handle in float position to follow the vertical movements of that push block when the bowl is lifted or dropped .
Although I was involved in dozer and scraper work for some decades I never told the operators to do so . With the blade in float position the pusher will lose some weight and thus traction while the rear end of the scraper will be heavier .
Have a nice day , johan7
Nothing more sexy than a nice set of tracks on a finish grade. ....
I agree; roughing in sub grade before covering with topsoil.
Shimmy1
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Now THAT is a showpiece. Nice work, Oxbow.
Yea Johan7, I have tried that pushing scrapers; never worked out well for me.
Excellent work td15c & Oxbow ! :thumbsup
On some jobs I track it all in on purpose for packing and on slopes. The grouser marks also help hold in new seed when trying to get something to grow on it when the job is done .
Other then that I mostly rough it all in with a dozer . Will have some dirt rifts left & small piles to deal with later with a farm tractor & box blade .
My thinking is do the rough work with the dozer and finish up with tractor . My dozer burns around 10 gallon of fuel an hour , farm tractor might burn 2 . Not to mention the box blade is pretty forgiving , just drop it down & have a barley soda on finish up .:drinkup
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?14619-Box-blade&p=185680&viewfull=1#post185680
On some jobs I track it all in on purpose for packing and on slopes. The grouser marks also help hold in new seed when trying to get something to grow on it when the job is done .
Other then that I mostly rough it all in with a dozer . Will have some dirt rifts left & small piles to deal with later with a farm tractor & box blade .
My thinking is do the rough work with the dozer and finish up with tractor . My dozer burns around 10 gallon of fuel an hour , farm tractor might burn 2 . Not to mention the box blade is pretty forgiving , just drop it down & have a barley soda on finish up .:drinkup
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?14619-Box-blade&p=185680&viewfull=1#post185680
Desertwheeler
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I'll have to try the float the next time I'm slot cutting and see how it works.
RonG
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JPV
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I agree that is top notch grading, but curious how did you or would you finish the topsoil for seed if you are trying to get a yard with minimal hand work that can be mowed with a lawn mower? Would you dress it up with the cat so there are no track marks and no berms that can't be kicked out with your toe or bring in another piece of equipment to drag it? Just saying there is more than one way to skin a cat.If you can grade that good forward,I would expect you can do it backwards, but it is not that easy to do it right. I will say that it anything bigger than a D 6 with a p a t blade is not good for doing that type of back blading so I don't bother.
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Very nice Ron !
It's a shame the contractor didn't have a International TD 18 on site for the job interview . You really could have showed them up on that rig .
Scrub Puller
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Yair . . .
Gotcha Oxbow.Looking good . . . I'd have to see how he cleans the rills and rips the next floor before he gets full marks. (big grin)
Cheers.
Gotcha Oxbow.Looking good . . . I'd have to see how he cleans the rills and rips the next floor before he gets full marks. (big grin)
Cheers.
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The lost art of slot dozing!
A lot of arguing went on... but I still agree with you... :cool2
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.co...f-slot-dozing!&p=462969&viewfull=1#post462969
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?40238-The-lost-art-of-slot-dozing!
BTW, I usually use the "float detent" when I'm plowing snow off a logging road, or such... the ground has
to be frozen pretty good, though. Lol, you know what happens if it isn't...
OCR...
Remember this thread, Scrub? ...
A lot of arguing went on... but I still agree with you... :cool2
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.co...f-slot-dozing!&p=462969&viewfull=1#post462969
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?40238-The-lost-art-of-slot-dozing!
BTW, I usually use the "float detent" when I'm plowing snow off a logging road, or such... the ground has
to be frozen pretty good, though. Lol, you know what happens if it isn't...
OCR...
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Scrub Puller
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Yair . . .
Gotcha OCR. That goes back a ways.
The machinery may have changed, but the dirt remains the same. (big grin)
Cheers
Gotcha OCR. That goes back a ways.
The machinery may have changed, but the dirt remains the same. (big grin)
Cheers