Galion 150 Refurbish

BobCatBob · Jun 26, 2015

Hi Jim

I just sent the dual crowd cylinder repair/installation manual via FED EX express. It's a detailed (with pictures) step by step manual (34 pages total). If you need more, I have a parts manual with schematics.

As a side note, this is one of the remaining mechanical repairs I need to do myself. How hard was it to get the boom out to remove the cylinders? Approximate weight?

BobCatBob · Jul 5, 2015

Happy 4th of July!

Got a bit done over the past few days, and now, the painting is done (front tires, drive shafts, shift linkage rods). Mounted the rear LED lights along with 4 Whelen LED strobe hazzrd lights (will have 10 on the machine when done). Having fun!

Oom Sam · Jul 21, 2015

Bob I need to strip a Galion 150 FA boom, pipe broke and i can't retract the boom can you give me any advice

BobCatBob · Jul 21, 2015

Oom Sam said:
Bob I need to strip a Galion 150 FA boom, pipe broke and i can't retract the boom can you give me any advice

Pictures of what broke? Have you tried lifting the boom to see if it will retract with valve open?

ichudov · Jul 22, 2015

I just saw this thread, I must say that you have a great project going!

I am in a somewhat similar boat with my Grove RT-60S.

Oom Sam · Jul 22, 2015

Bob it is one of the 2 Boom cylinder hoses running to the inside cylinder, the two running over the sheave wheel to the 2 cylinder inside the boom. I did try to lift the boom but the safety valve is keeping the cylinder from retracting. Will Post pictures had rain today.

BobCatBob · Jul 22, 2015

Oom Sam said:
Bob it is one of the 2 Boom cylinder hoses running to the inside cylinder, the two running over the sheave wheel to the 2 cylinder inside the boom. I did try to lift the boom but the safety valve is keeping the cylinder from retracting. Will Post pictures had rain today.

I know those hoses well....I have two new ones in my pole barn on the floor (I need to work on my internal cylinders, as well as the valve block). That's a real pickle..... as you can't get to the valve block with the boom extended (which means there is no back pressure to offset the safety valve). Get me a picture or two.....I'll call a friend (Galion Mechanic) and ask him.

If the split end is outside of the boom, you can cut and add a hydraulic coupling for a temporary fix ....retract and put a new hose on (they're not expensive....I believed mine was $168/hose). As a side note, the hoses are different than regular hyrdraulic hoses....they stretch.

BobCatBob · Jul 23, 2015

I spoke with my parts supplier this morning (Phil at Contractors Crane co , 713-695-7162, http://www.contractorscraneco.com/ ).

1. Retract the 1st section

2. Climb up on the back of the boom, just in front of the winch, there is an access area to get at the hoses (on the valve block/diverter valve). Prior to removing hoses, make sure their is no tension from the Gleeson real (spring motor the two hoses ride on)....then remove both hoses (if replacing one, might as well replace both......hoses are pretty cheap all considering). Use the hoses specifically made for this application....as a regular hydraulic hose will stretch over time and pop off the sheeve).

3. Call Phil at Contractors.....they'll send the hoses they sent me (they ship all over the world). Good people, extremely knowledgeable on these machines (have your serial number ready, located on floor left of cab seat).

Bob

Oom Sam · Jul 23, 2015

Thank you for your help Bob. I took the 2 front sections of the boom out, Got to the valve and the broken hose. Will have new hoses in the morning (special hose grade). Here it is not cheap R 1800.00 plus tax each.
Thanks for all the help.

BobCatBob · Jul 23, 2015

Oom Sam said:
Thank you for your help Bob. I took the 2 front sections of the boom out, Got to the valve and the broken hose. Will have new hoses in the morning (special hose grade). Here it is not cheap R 1800.00 plus tax each.
Thanks for all the help.

My pleasure.

BobCatBob · Jul 26, 2015

The lights are installed!! I went with Rigid Industries LED lights and Whelen Hazard lights. I'll upload a video once I get her outside and in the dark.

ichudov · Jul 26, 2015

I am wondering. You tore this crane down and made it look great. But are you also going through hydraulics (cylinders, hoses) and rebuilding/replacing them?

BobCatBob · Jul 27, 2015

Yes, most of them have been replaced/repaired.....everything leaked when I saved the crane from the junkyard. Go through some of the previous posts (2+ years now)......even did an out of frame engine rebuild (all but crankshaft replaced).

SeaMac · Jul 27, 2015

I tell'ya Bob, that is one awesome looking project you've undertaken and it looks absolutely great! Just curious, what inspired you to go into such a detailed restoration?

BobCatBob · Jul 27, 2015

SeaMac said:
I tell'ya Bob, that is one awesome looking project you've undertaken and it looks absolutely great! Just curious, what inspired you to go into such a detailed restoration?

Short answer: can't do anything 1/2 ass'd

Long answer: I bought it from a local who was going to scrap it. I figured I would do some basic work on it to use on our farm....as the price was right. Like any "repair" , one thing leads to another ....and then you go "Hell with it, lets do it right". As someone who can't sit in front of a TV, with a good case of A.D.D.....a challenge like this is what makes it worth while. Almost everything on the machine needed work/attention.......and I have a few items left (boom diverter valve and cylinders, boom hoses, a few steering hoses, inspection of brakes (they work, but check the lining/drums anyhow))......and finish assembly of refurbished items. The joy is in standing back, opening a beverage and stating: I did that!

ichudov · Jul 27, 2015

I am very impressed. I am wondering, do you think that it will perform as good as new?

I have a similar vintage Grove RT-60S. I do not care that much how it looks, but I want to make sure that it is safe and reliable.

SeaMac · Jul 27, 2015

I am very impressed, you definitely deserve to sit back and enjoy whatever frosty adult beverage you desire after an accomplishment such as that! Kudos to you Bob for a job well done!! :thumbsup

BobCatBob said:
Short answer: can't do anything 1/2 ass'd

Long answer: I bought it from a local who was going to scrap it. I figured I would do some basic work on it to use on our farm....as the price was right. Like any "repair" , one thing leads to another ....and then you go "Hell with it, lets do it right". As someone who can't sit in front of a TV, with a good case of A.D.D.....a challenge like this is what makes it worth while. Almost everything on the machine needed work/attention.......and I have a few items left (boom diverter valve and cylinders, boom hoses, a few steering hoses, inspection of brakes (they work, but check the lining/drums anyhow))......and finish assembly of refurbished items. The joy is in standing back, opening a beverage and stating: I did that!

BobCatBob · Jul 27, 2015

ichudov said:
I am very impressed. I am wondering, do you think that it will perform as good as new?

I have a similar vintage Grove RT-60S. I do not care that much how it looks, but I want to make sure that it is safe and reliable.

I concur. Cable, brakes (swing, winch, wheels, etc), full inspection on everything (god knows if it's been rolled, welded, stressed just before failure).......then an OSHA inspection. I'll have that done when finished......I would feel horrible if I sold it and missed something.

BobCatBob · Jul 27, 2015

SeaMac said:
I am very impressed, you definitely deserve to sit back and enjoy whatever frosty adult beverage you desire after an accomplishment such as that! Kudos to you Bob for a job well done!! :thumbsup

Thanks Sea Mac. I like your location description. OH...is that a mini MD 500 in your avatar?

SeaMac · Jul 27, 2015

You're welcome Bob, yes, you have to dig a little to decipher my location and no, that is a Guimbal Cabri G2 helicopter, superior in many ways to a mini MD500 and definitely not a kit. I am impatiently waiting for my "little bird" to arrive -summer 2017- only two so far in the US, Guimbal only received FAA certification earlier this year although they've been whirling about in other parts of the planet for over a decade. A closer look will divulge a fenestron tail-rotor and 3-blade bearingless main. It'll AR like no other chopper and letting loose the cyclic it'll damn near fly itself as if AP were engaged. Impressively safe, economical and forgiving to fly...

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