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JDOFMEMI

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MKTEF

Glad to see you around still.

I love the crusher job. Looks like tough work. Those are the fun ones.
 

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Nice pics! I like infrastructure projects in common, and also reclamation projects, but I don't know or you have them a lot?
Are most of the excavators working with 3D GPS in scandinavia? In Holland most of them work with Trimble or Topcon, so as surveyor I have a lot of work to prepare 3D models etc. .
 

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Koens90:
All excavators on Projects have 3d. The 3 most usual ones is Trimble, Topcon and Scanlaser.
And dozers, graders and even compactors.
On most Projects you get the models from the Builder.
You just copy them on usb sticks or they download them from the database and directly into the machines.(machines have a cellphone modem)
Today you will not see any stakes on Projects.
Even the Army where i work has 3d on graders and dozer..
 

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Oh maybe you even have more machines with 3D GPS than in Holland in that case. On large projects the main contractor will supply the models, and give them to the operators on USB disk.
But last few years also small companies are getting gps on their machines, and they don't have surveyors and draftsmen. When they have some own projects, they can't make 3D models. For me as one-man company it's nice to help them with the surveying and to make 3D models :)

But do you have enough reception of 3G signals for correction in entire Norway? For my previous job I often used a base station due to lack of reception...
 

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Great pictures ! Norway looks much like my backyard here in the States in those pictures....Very Cool indeed. Keep them coming. I really enjoy seeing other parts of the World. I'll never have the money to actually travel so this is the only way for mr to see what others around do with their Heavy Equipment. Thanks for taking the time to post these....
 

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Koens90:
All excavators on Projects have 3d. The 3 most usual ones is Trimble, Topcon and Scanlaser.
And dozers, graders and even compactors.
On most Projects you get the models from the Builder.
You just copy them on usb sticks or they download them from the database and directly into the machines.(machines have a cellphone modem)
Today you will not see any stakes on Projects.
Even the Army where i work has 3d on graders and dozer..

I broke away when the GPS etc thing was breaking ground among the contractors.I saw the hardware and realized its potential but never got to use it.It is incomprehensible to me to imagine a job site with no grade stakes.Ron G
 

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RonG: A couple of years ago a European contractor, Alpine, whon a job here. Then for the first time in 7-10 years stakes was put up. No one could beliewe in what they saw. Whell, they went bankrupcy in some months. Not due to this Project..but. Over here the wages is so high, that GPS saves you a lot of manhours.

Koens: The Norwegian maping authorothy has a service you can pay for. You just pay for the correction signals over the mobilphone network. The machine Calls up and receiwes the signals over phone. They have a number of gps recievers all over Norway so they can calculate a correct correction value.
Most big Contractors set up their own base on a fixed spot on the work site. The phone system is very positive for surveyors as you can go where ever you want, and just get corrections into Your mapbook.
 

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Good to see you posting again MKTEF. Was the placard on the bucket magnetic or did you wait for it to wear off? The rock job looks like fun, but the rest is the kind of excitement i try to avoid.
 

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Its magnetic. I try to avoid those situations too, but as we do educational stuff, some guys are unlucky. The Moxy is a Write of as of now. It is to expensive to repair it. Maybe the aprentice guys on the workshop is challenged With it..
 

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After studying that Movie in fulls screen i noticed the reason for the publisity.
The front snowblower has a gps antenna mounted at the middle.
And a screen inside the loader telling him where the road goes.
I also noticed that the last one is following the roadfence at parts of the road.

www.overaasen.no has a us suplier you can contact for testing.
They are present at many big airports where they have snow in the wintertime.
Blowers used in the video is UTV600, With Mercedes V8 450Kw, it trows 4500tonns/hour.
Same engines as in Our armys UPV425. There is a short video from a course i had on their homepage about the UPV425.
 

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RonG: A couple of years ago a European contractor, Alpine, whon a job here. Then for the first time in 7-10 years stakes was put up. No one could beliewe in what they saw. Whell, they went bankrupcy in some months. Not due to this Project..but. Over here the wages is so high, that GPS saves you a lot of manhours.

Koens: The Norwegian maping authorothy has a service you can pay for. You just pay for the correction signals over the mobilphone network. The machine Calls up and receiwes the signals over phone. They have a number of gps recievers all over Norway so they can calculate a correct correction value.
Most big Contractors set up their own base on a fixed spot on the work site. The phone system is very positive for surveyors as you can go where ever you want, and just get corrections into Your mapbook.

Okay, than its quite the same as in Holland. As surveyor I use phone signals as well because I have a lot of different working areas. On bigger projects or areas where the signal is really poor, we also place base stations. Especially for projects where accuracy is very important, because with radio signals the corrections are faster.
Thanks for the explanation!
 

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Yea not too bad but he missed the groove on the pulley! Like I could get that heli of the ground one meter and back down with out wrecking it! Heck I have trouble working the mouse on this computer some days!
 

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Down Trollstigen with a semitrailer

This is a video from the transport of Bicycles Down Trollstigen. 8-10% downhill.(triathlon contest in july)
This guy got a permit...
Length of this combination is 17,5m. Scania R730..
max length here is apr 40 feet/13,1m, single trucks/busses, with steared last axle.

The driver says its touristbusses stuck here every day during the summer time.(+ Foreign trailers trying to save time)
Video is in 2x speed.

Norwegian landscape at its best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YqR76amDsNM
 
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Is that a two way road? Would like to take a ride down that road on my sidecar outfit! But not if that Scania was coming the other way!:eek:
 

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Yes its a two way road.
But not allowed for semies like the Scania. Its to long.
Max size is single truck/bus, max apr40feet/13.1m long.

Road was closed when this guy with the Scania went down. And he got a permit for that trip.
Search for trillstigen on youtube...there is some films of long busses in trouble..

This is a touristattraction, and total caos on the road, espesially when the busses get stuck.
At 0:28 you can see the viewpoint build by the road authorities.
Its built out in the air, so you can see down the whole valley, With the road on the left side.
 
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