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Diesel Additive Study...what do you use?

OneWelder

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Is the govt. more realistic know? When the govt first started testing years ago any trace of red dye would get a huge fine.
What about the RED DYE in ATF or Marvel Mystery oil ? I have read where the FEDS went after people for having trace am outs in their fuel samples One company was put out of business - and it turned out the tanker had hauled some dyed fuel a couple of loads before delivering the road fuel
I have used Marvel in the off road stuff , but not the over road trks. because of these articles
 

Darryl

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Diesel Additives are the best to improve the performance of your vehicle engine. Diesel fuel additives are specially formulated substances that are mixed into diesel fuel in order to enhance its functionality. Using these additives for your vehicle is more beneficial as fuel quality varies in different countries. Diesel additives have various advantages.

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shaneb

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Started using Howes towards the end of December. Have put on around 2000 miles on dump truck. I have seen about .5 MPG improvement in that time. Not drastic but it is enough to justify cost of using.
 

Greg

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If you buy good fuel you should not need anything. Somebody mentioned good old ATF. A quart to 100 gallons or so keeps things clean and lubricated. I would go that route if you are in need of something. The additives that the "snake oil salesmen" are pushing can go up to $125.00 a gallon and better but they tell you a gallon will treat 1,000 gallons of fuel and increase your mileage by 20.0%. Ya, sure and I will respect you in the morning too.

Canola, also known as "rape seed oil" is the oil of choice for deep frying food. Around here I am turning out about 100 gallons of fuel per week made from reprocessed used deep fryer oil. When I say reprocessed, that is what I mean, not just strained and filtered. It is the most amazing stuff. Yes, it cleans out everything in the fuel system of the engine and you will have to change filters a time or two until everything gets cleaned up. But that happens if you start running very high concentrations of 50.0% or so. Start out at lower levels like 10.0% and work your way up. If your intension is to use it for improved lubrication go for a quart or so to 100 gallons of fuel.

I don't know if it ignites quicker than regular Diesel fuel or not, but I have run it at 100.0% in my equipment and it works fantistic. Same power, same consumption or slightly less. Have been using it since 2006 here so have lots of history with it.

Also burn reprocess canola in oil fired furnace in house and just purchased a boiler for in floor heat in my shop.

Now, have got to going looking for more oil supply to make even more.
 

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Can't call me a farmer cause I don't farm. Snake oil maker? Well, that may stick.

I find that a 50% canola oil fuel, reprocessed into fuel, and 50% of regular diesel works pretty good. The canola made into diesel will start to jell up at about 10 degrees F or there about. I have read where that is caused by a bit of residual moisture from the water washing process of making biodiesel out of canola oil. I have switched to a dry filter media now but have no winter experience with it to speak of yet.
 

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In our modern common rail,20K+ PSI systems,you are just fooling yourself if you think ATF and 2 stroke is helpful as a diesel additive.Neither one was ever intended for such use.Newer ATF's are loaded with detergents and friction modifiers.That is fine for a tranny--NOT in a modern,sophisticated diesel engine to be burned.Maybe years ago with older mechanical injectored engines and ''simpler'' ATF's,there was some advantage as a ''cleaner'' of sorts,but not today.2 stroke will add some lubricity to diesel for sure but at what cost?It has been proven to leave deposits on injectors and again,same as ATF,there's some detergents in them that were only intended to be blended with gas.The small cost of a good ''official'' diesel additive added to every tank with this crappy dry ULSD IMHO far outweighs the harm that's caused inside our diesels in the long term vs.using nothing or some kind of witches brew.I like and use Schaeffer's on every fill.
 

Vtgreg

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Just asking, but why should I use your product for lubricity, rather than Walmart 2 stroke in my fuel.? For a stabizer, anti gel, moisture reducer/disapater, I have been very happy with PRI-D. What product do you feel surpasses PRI-D.
 

dixon700

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In my pickup, I run 1 oz per gal wally world tw-c3 2 stroke, then I about 6-8 oz of power service Grey bottle in summer. I had run other additives with no luck. The power service anti - gel additive the white bottle actually works unlike the others I've used. In my tlb I'll run a little of the same additives. When I fill my storage tank I put a bottle of diesel stabil, bottle of power service, and some 2 stroke oil. I've never had premature injector wear on anything.
 

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Glad to say I don't have to, because where I am right now we have 2% sulphur (2000ppm) in our fuel instead of the 15ppm of ULSD - and no, before anyone asks the 2000ppm is NOT a typo. Lubricates fuel systems a treat ..............

A mate of mine who's working in West Africa at the moment has 3500ppm sulphur in his fuel.
 

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glad to say i don't have to, because where i am right now we have 2% sulphur (2000ppm) in our fuel instead of the 15ppm of ulsd - and no, before anyone asks the 2000ppm is not a typo. Lubricates fuel systems a treat ..............

A mate of mine who's working in west africa at the moment has 3500ppm sulphur in his fuel.[/quote THAT IS NOT FAIR!!!!!! Please send it over here :D
 

Duramax05

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I have been using power service and standyne for some time on both equipment and diesel pickups and i have to say i am happy with the product picked up a few mpg and quiets the engine down. Problem with atf as additive is that it actually cleans too good and will lead to problems.
 

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Stanadyne

:)Another vote for Stanadyne. I like the Blue bottle ( performance forumula). My reasoning is based on the idea that it is the only fuel additive I know of that is manufactured by a fuel system manufacturer. It is (or has) been recommended by a number of engine manufactures such as Cat, Deere, GM, and VW. Some people don't believe the Caterpillar endorsement, but I was working at a dealership when the TIM was released and I still have a copy. In the mid 90's when North America went to hydro cracked 500 PPM sulfur fuel, it played havoc on the distributor style pumps on the Cat 400 series backhoes With the Perkins engines. The Stanadyne worked great.

Lots of guys like to put ATF in their tanks. I just don't get it. It has a bunch of stuff in it that wasn't meant to be burned or passed through modern fuel injection equipment. Sure, a little ATF isn't going to harm an old-school low pressure fuel system, but I sure don't think it's a good idea to run it through a expensive set of modern Bosch Pizio nozzles.
 

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This thread was started 5 years ago, anybody still have the same fuel(in a bulk tank) they were using then, that would be a real test :D
 

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Lots of guys like to put ATF in their tanks. I just don't get it. It has a bunch of stuff in it that wasn't meant to be burned or passed through modern fuel injection equipment. Sure, a little ATF isn't going to harm an old-school low pressure fuel system, but I sure don't think it's a good idea to run it through a expensive set of modern Bosch Pizio nozzles.

Agreed
 
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