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Opinions please 966c vs 950f

5.9rookie

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Looking to buy used wheel loader. These two machines seem to be about the same size. These are the years I can afford. The c models seem to be 10-15k cheaper. Plan on loading trucks in small sand pit. I only have 3 trucks and don't load others much. Both have 20k plus hours. I haven't looked at the 966c yet. I have loaded with a 966b a little bit. I'm afraid there's not much difference in the b and c models. Any suggestions appreciated. Tony
 

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The old machines are easier to keep running yourself but at 20,000Hrs they are projects, everything is likely worn bad.
Later Bob
 

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You mentioned a 950F....it would be a little newer. Thing I never liked about the C models were the bucket linkages, and how the steering linkage would get worn, and shake so bad, and didn't they have air brakes. I've never been a Cat fan, but I always liked a 950.
 

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The 66c powertrain feels like it puts the power to the ground better. I have always liked the older cat powertrains. The F has some modern creature comforts and some of the electronic dodads.

Personally take the coin you would spend on a F, take your time and buy a good componented 66c from a small or retiring show.
 

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Thanks men. I guess I need to go check out the 966c. I'm currently loading with a 520b international. I believe either will be a step up. I do plan on letting other trucks in my pit later on. Just don't want to buy to small, or to old of loader. Also found a 988b priced right. It's not far from the 966c so need to look at it.
 

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Thanks men. I guess I need to go check out the 966c. I'm currently loading with a 520b international. I believe either will be a step up. I do plan on letting other trucks in my pit later on. Just don't want to buy to small, or to old of loader. Also found a 988b priced right. It's not far from the 966c so need to look at it.
A 988 is a big fuel burning pig. Unless you have a quarry operation to keep going I would steer clear. They like to move into a site, and live there as long as possible. Even though I am a fan of the 950F over the 966C, at least you can walk the 966 down the road, or go into a subdivision, and clear property, or dig a basement. A 988 would pretty much have to stay in a pit. Our construction season here shuts down for the winter. The loaders stay busy plowing snow. The 980 which is noticably smaller than a 988 sits in the quarry all winter because it is too hard on fuel. A 950 is a nice all around loader, and I guess to me, an F would be newer. If you really have your heart set on bigger, for a small operation, get the older 966, but I would stay away from the 988.
 

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back when I worked in the rock quarry are 988b was the pit loader. it wood load a r35 Euclid running off both sides in three buckets.
 

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back when I worked in the rock quarry are 988b was the pit loader. it wood load a r35 Euclid running off both sides in three buckets.
We hauled out of a quarry that had a 992 loading rock trucks. We were hauling R5 with tandem trucks to a road job. Their 980 was down, so the only thing down where the R5 was piled was the 992. We would back 2 tandems tailgate to tailgate, and he would load 2 at a time. What made me think of that, was your name TD15. We had 2 TD15s on the job. One had a plywood cab.
 

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bet that was hard on tail gates with R5 hitting the top of them. are r5 rock is up to #400 rocks.
 

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bet that was hard on tail gates with R5 hitting the top of them. are r5 rock is up to #400 rocks.
They were just old site trucks, spent most of their time hauling along side of articulated rock trucks. The quarry was just across the highway from the job. I'm not sure of the exact spec, but I think our R5 is 4 to 6 inch. The young fella was pretty careful, plus it makes the bean counters in the office pretty happy to get 2 trucks loaded at a time.
 

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Down here in IL that wood be closer to a RR3 rock. so when you said R5 all I could see was dented up tailgates and truck drivers bouncing there heads off the top of the cab. Your right a good loader operator makes all the difference.
 

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Thanks men. I guess I need to go check out the 966c. I'm currently loading with a 520b international. I believe either will be a step up. I do plan on letting other trucks in my pit later on. Just don't want to buy to small, or to old of loader. Also found a 988b priced right. It's not far from the 966c so need to look at it.

I'd look for a 980B just a bit bigger than a 966C. They are usually cheaper even though they're bigger because the 966C is the size everyone wants.
 

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I currently have a 988B, nice machine but BIG. I have spent a lot of time in 966c's, never a 950b. There were 2 of them(950b) in town years ago and it seems they both had transmission problems at roughly the same amount of hours. IMHO the 966c's were the best loader ever. Not as nice to run as the new ones but good solid loaders. I also really liked the 966D, if you can find one.The old 950's are a good machine as well, easier on fuel and will load a truck in no time.Try and stay away from the 988's/980's, big and hard on fuel and costly to repair. Cheers LD
 
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Yeah for simplicity the 966
At least if you lose electrical power you can keep on going

966C is one of my favorite loaders, worked on many over the years. If good basic maintenance is followed they will go on for a long time. 988B is a good loader for digging shot rock in a quarry, but a bit over kill if loading trucks for over the road. Also mush more expensive to repair and operate. The 966C's can bring a premium if sold at auction, running or not even missing things like engine and bucket! In the same condition a 966C will bring probably double the 988B.
 

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966C is one of my favorite loaders, worked on many over the years. If good basic maintenance is followed they will go on for a long time. 988B is a good loader for digging shot rock in a quarry, but a bit over kill if loading trucks for over the road. Also mush more expensive to repair and operate. The 966C's can bring a premium if sold at auction, running or not even missing things like engine and bucket! In the same condition a 966C will bring probably double the 988B.

That's why I suggest a 980B cheaper to buy. Not much bigger. Can load trucks faster. Still can go down the road.
 

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That's why I suggest a 980B cheaper to buy. Not much bigger. Can load trucks faster. Still can go down the road.

Well I can recall following a 988 A 87A from our shop to a quarry 90 miles away one day when we could not get a truck to deliver it for the next day!

I would agree a 980 B would be a good choice too, still a basic machine with if I recall it also had a 3306, just boosted a little with air to air after cooler. Unless one needs the size of a 988B I would not suggest one just on additional costs of everything.
 

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When I worked at the asphalt plant we had a 966 and a 950 for back up. The 966 was very reliable hardly ever had problems but when it did and you had to run the 950 you would work your butt off trying to keep up. In my opinion both machine are excellent loaders so if you don't ever need the extra capacity of the 966 I would take the one in the best condition.
 

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Thanks men, the 988 was to far gone for me. I loaded my truck with the 950f, it's seemed just a little small. I would like to dump 2 buckets in the truck and 2 in the pup trailer. Ideally 22-24 tons or 18-20 yards. I did like the reach the f model had, when leveling off the load. I'm gonna try and load some with the 966c next week. Trying to get loader my help is comfortable with.
 
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