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Case 1845C Brake Question

sims

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I'm in the process of restoring the brake system on my new to me 1845C. I have scrounged up all the parts except the springs that connect the pin cables to the operator arm cables. I need to know the length and diameter. Case wants $15 per spring and I can't imagine that the spring is anything that special. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

SimS
 

clintm

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I used to have to have a rubber bungee pulling on my cable to make sure the pins didn't slide back in and break the chains
 

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Diameter should be easy to guess at, has to fit the hole the pin is in without binding. Length just long enogh to put some pressure on the pins to poke them into the holes in the sprocket. I thought I might have some but used them up I guess.
 

sims

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KSH;

I'm looking for info on the springs that connect the pin cable clevis to the operator handle cable clevis together. There are two extension springs, one for each side. See item(s) #25 below.


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kshansen

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Sorry, I was not thinking about those. If I can find the time to take a peak at ours Tuesday I'll take some measurements. I'm thinking they are about 5/8 OD and about 3-4 inches long. Their main function is to put some tension on the cables with out breaking the cable is the pins a under pressure when you try to disengage the brake. Then when you move the machine a little to take pressure off the pins they snap them out of the gear.

I still recall one 1845 that some so called operator managed to bust the tubes for the brake pins right out of the main frame. I seem to recall the older machines had a separate lever to engage the brake not the two safety levers like yours. Bet he did not know what the lever did and applied the brake while traveling at full speed:eek:
 

Bulldog777

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I would recommend spending the $15, I have seen the damage these pins do, if the tension does not fully retract the pins they wear the pins and sprockets, this then runs through the chains, it might take 1000 hours but will make a mess and need a lot of money spent.
 

sims

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Bulldog;

Good points. I thought I would do some research before I spend $30 for something that might cost $5 in the real world. There are a lot of industry common parts on these machines that have large overhead charges added on by the factory. Nuts, Bolts and Bearings are some of the things I have sourced locally that were quite a bit cheaper (less expensive) than the Case parts. I'll see when KSH responds.

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Bulldog;

Good points. I thought I would do some research before I spend $30 for something that might cost $5 in the real world. There are a lot of industry common parts on these machines that have large overhead charges added on by the factory. Nuts, Bolts and Bearings are some of the things I have sourced locally that were quite a bit cheaper (less expensive) than the Case parts. I'll see when KSH responds.

SimS

Sims,

Not sure when I will be able to look at the 1845C, our JCB 185 broke down for the third time in as many weeks and then the 988H Pit loader blew an exhust gasket! You could always buy one from Case then use it to match it up at the hardware store. But have to agree with Bulldog, saving money today could cost you much more next year when something fails right in the middle of a big project.
 

sims

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KSH;
Thanks for the update. Sorry to hear about all your equipment woes. I'm in no rush so if you have a chance sometime in the future I would appreciate it. BTW i'm building a list of factory/Case only parts that I'll need so the springs might have to go on the list!!

SimS
 
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