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Are all Case skid steer notorious for tearing up

benwithan

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I have a case 1845 and a 1825 skid steer, both machines tandem pumps don't work on right side. Seen a lot of posts of problems. Wondering if I should spend more $. Had one pump redone and did help till it warmed up, and bought a good used one and used for about a year before it went down on the other.
 

partsandservice

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The pump and motor are a closed loop system, replacing or repairing the pump with out addressing the corresponding motor almost always leads to repeat pump failure.
 

dporter

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3 pumps and two motors make the system. Debris from one goes through all. You need to rebuild all the pieces at the same time and flush the oil lines. Otherwise you will just keep taking out each piece one at a time in short order.

Did this once the first time it happened. I brought the pump stack only to the shop. He asked me where the rest of the motors where. I said this is the problem piece please fix, the motors are fine. So he did, it lasted 4 hrs. brought him the machine a said fix please. He didnt say a word but "ok".

This shop earned my respect and my business for many years after.
 

kshansen

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3 pumps and two motors make the system. Debris from one goes through all. You need to rebuild all the pieces at the same time and flush the oil lines. Otherwise you will just keep taking out each piece one at a time in short order.

Did this once the first time it happened. I brought the pump stack only to the shop. He asked me where the rest of the motors where. I said this is the problem piece please fix, the motors are fine. So he did, it lasted 4 hrs. brought him the machine a said fix please. He didnt say a word but "ok".

This shop earned my respect and my business for many years after.

Glad to hear you learned from the mistake! I can't tell you how many times I've seen things like this happen. Some people learn after one time others just keep chasing a problem for years and never admit they did it wrong the first time. Then they blame the mechanic who tried to tell them how it should be done right at the start. Or they condemn a machine as a piece of crap.

Kind of like blaming the glass man that you call to replace the window time after time when what you should do is kick the butt of the kid who is throwing the stones at the window.
 

benwithan

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So does this mean I can just redo the right side pump and right motor and lines, or do I have to take apart both pumps and both motors and rest of system.
 

kshansen

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So does this mean I can just redo the right side pump and right motor and lines, or do I have to take apart both pumps and both motors and rest of system.

As all the hydraulics, drive and boom/bucket and any attachments run off the same supply if one component has a major failure the crap goes everywhere. If the oil in tank looks like metalflake paint you know it has been everywhere causing damage. I know it's not what you want to hear but sometimes the truth hurts.:(

If you bite the bullet so to speak now you might get lucky and only have to invest in some seal kits and labor to disassemble and clean the other components. Fix only the currently failed part and keep running it and you could end up chasing this problem from one point to the next and right back to where you started with the first component replaced failing again.
 

wyomingjet

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I'm not a case guy, but I agree n we learn by experience at times. Make certain they flush the entire system which takes special equipment to remove all debris as you've surely have a contaminated system from parts failures. So please do or you'll be back again with the same problem if not more so. Good luck,,,
 
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