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Removing Stumps
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Dozerbill63
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I think I have lost the job to a D65 Komatsu , I priced the job at $1,800.00 per acre , owner said he would think about it after rolling his eyes as saying I may be to high in price .
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Dozerbill63
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That is why I said profit is a Plus . May do other jobs with an excavator or dozer , never know what may be down the road .
I also assumed you were working on your own property. I think I understand, If you got the job would you use the 580 backhoe or possibly buy a dozer or excavator?
Dozerbill63
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If I get the job , I will use an excavator .
Depending upon how long its been cut you could factor in that they might be a little rotted by now. Around here we have some trees that were never harvested and went on to die from disease or lightening , they could be 30" and fall right over as well as the top back on you.
Dozerbill63
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Pines trees were healthy and well , cut last week , green as can be , roots will be any where from 4 - 8 feet deep and about 28 -30 inches in diameter to the bottom of root wad . This is why I ask what is the fast and easier way to remove big stumps . I know there has been a D65 there , how long I don't know , can he remove pine stumps as I have described with a D65 , I don't know , can he do it for less than $1,800.00 per acre , I don't know . I do want to see the D65 in action so I may learn something about Alabama Pine stump clearing . I am from KY. . been here 3 years now and haven't seen the Alabama boy do this .
ointheadScrub Puller
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Yair . . . Dozerbill63. When it happens you will post us some pictures? This kind of stuff is real interesting for us folks in far off places.
Cheers
Cheers
Dozerbill63
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Hey Scrub , how ya doin down under , I would love to visit your country , half a world away . I think you can see I am not getting a lot of constructed information . The large dozer with KG blade would do the job , but over kill for such a small job, A small excavator ,40,000 lb class will do the job . 450 Case dozer can chase stumps into pile . No one has said anything about price per acre , would be nice to see what other guys price stumps per acre , I would rather work by the hour .
Dozerbill63
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Hey Kentucky Man how are you ? I lived in Louisville for 60 years , what city do you live in ? My name is Bill Clark
Bruce Higgins
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When we in north Mo. get into ajob like yours we would rather work by the hour. If the customer wants a bid they will get one but we learned a long time ago to bid high to protect ourselves. Depending on how many stumps per acre $1800.00 might be shy of cost. All depends on ground conditions and operators.
Dozerbill63
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Hey Bruce , you are right , trees were planted 20 years ago with a few old growth trees here and there , how many stumps per acre I don't know . A friend of mine said he sold his trees for $500.00 and it cost a Thousand Dollars to remove the stumps , just saying . If $1,800.00 is shy then the guy with the D65 may be getting a better education than me . I believe I will stick with an hourly figure and let those stump jobs pass me by .
Scrub Puller
Senior Member
Yair . . . Dozerbill63
Smart move I reckon. I started a thread on bidding versus hourly rate on here a while back.
I believe most folks did not agree but, as I see it, if a machine with a competent operator is priced at a fair hourly rate then that is what the job costs. Any deviation from that and someone is losing money.
If I have to bid a job I load it to cover intangibles so the customer loses if the job goes well . . . on the other hand if I were to bid it without the built in intangible component and things don't go well I'm the one that's burnt.
I would always say to my customers I believe the job will take x amount of hours and will cost x amount of dollars at hourly rate . . . if you want a firm quote it will be more.
Cheers.
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Smart move I reckon. I started a thread on bidding versus hourly rate on here a while back.
I believe most folks did not agree but, as I see it, if a machine with a competent operator is priced at a fair hourly rate then that is what the job costs. Any deviation from that and someone is losing money.
If I have to bid a job I load it to cover intangibles so the customer loses if the job goes well . . . on the other hand if I were to bid it without the built in intangible component and things don't go well I'm the one that's burnt.
I would always say to my customers I believe the job will take x amount of hours and will cost x amount of dollars at hourly rate . . . if you want a firm quote it will be more.
Cheers.
Dozerbill63
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Yes Scrubs , that is how it is done and I do the same , the customer has the upper hand , he shows my price to the next guy and he cuts my price and gets the job , I am sure all other operators will do the same to get the job ,sometimes they know there is no profit to make . I have been called back to complete jobs that other cut throat operators under cut my price and then could not do . I will watch this guy with the D65 , maybe I will get a lesson from him .
D6 Merv
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yes I be the same too dozerbill and scrub. Tis far better to loose a job on a good price than to get one on a poor price; esp if its hard work like stumps. Your own experience is the best tutor here, though is always interesting to watch how the others go too, to see if they get it wrong, or right.
If your going to do anything on contract you have to be doing a lot better than what you would be on hourly rate or theres no point in doing it. All my forestry work is hourly rate work and customers are happy, otherwise I wouldn't be there.
If your going to do anything on contract you have to be doing a lot better than what you would be on hourly rate or theres no point in doing it. All my forestry work is hourly rate work and customers are happy, otherwise I wouldn't be there.
Dozerbill63
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Thanks D6 Merv , happy to hear your input .
Scrub Puller
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Yair . . . coxey2. The original poster asked about stumps . . . huge difference to pushing trees.
If you spend a few dollars on a bit of scrap and knock up a treepusher you would probably walk right up to a tree like that and push it . . . it would grieve me no end to take fifteen minutes on a twelve inch tree with a sixty hp dozer!
Cheers.
If you spend a few dollars on a bit of scrap and knock up a treepusher you would probably walk right up to a tree like that and push it . . . it would grieve me no end to take fifteen minutes on a twelve inch tree with a sixty hp dozer!
Cheers.