Best grease?

HRPLandServices · Dec 1, 2013

Ok so I'm wondering what is the best grease for real heavy duty use for arms and bucket? I'm using a 3% moly grease from tractor supply right now and just curious if there's better? When the arms get a little sloppy with some play in them...are the pins the only thing worn..or the sleeve on the arms the pins go through worn just as much? Thanks!

rancher2 · Dec 2, 2013

I have used kendall blue on every thing for years. It seems to hold up well. It is not cheap but parts are higher.

HRPLandServices · Dec 2, 2013

I've been using traveller 3% moly, but I'm thinking I need something more sticky, like mystic jt6, or valvoline crimson. I can grease it and an hour later hear just a little squeeking.

Nige · Dec 3, 2013

Hard to tell without seeing the machine but the symptoms you describe are probably the grease being extruded out from the pin joints because of them being "a little sloppy" (your words). No grease will stay in a joint under those conditions no matter how good it is.

BSM773 · Dec 3, 2013

Ive been using Mystic for some time now,, and it works well. It seems to stick around a little longer then others.

HRPLandServices · Dec 3, 2013

Guess I'm going to look at replacing all the pins and start over with a more sticky grease. I have greased it plenty, it has 500 hours on it and I do a lot of grubbing and pushing trees over with grubber 3-5' off the ground for leverage. Maybe I'm just wearing the pins faster in my applications and its not the grease fault? How long on average should those pins stay tight?

dkmc · Dec 3, 2013

In a perfect world, the pins should be easier to replace than the bushings, and they should wear out.....not the bushings.

I noticed Harbor Freight has grease that seems to be high in moly content, silver in color.

Pin & bushing life varies......longer in light duty work with good maintenance, shorter on machines that are never greased, and work in creek beds with silt lubrication...

durallymax · Dec 3, 2013

Texas Refinery Corp Crown and Chassis grease is about the best you can find for this application. Anything with an aluminum or calcium base is going to be better than lithium.

I use Delo HD EP2 for things that can't have moly and 5% moly in the pins and bushings due to using Delo for everything else, its just easier. Make sure you keep the moly out of high speed roller bearings though.

MrElectric03 · Dec 3, 2013

One of my customers uses castrol pyro plex gold. That **** is like antiseeze and as much as you clean it off your clothes it gets all over, must be some good stuff and they say it worked best of the greases they tested.

Rob Rodriguez · Feb 23, 2014

Does anyone know what specs to look for when purchasing a lithium complex grease nlgi2? What makes it a high temp? I found a deal on for the pail size on amazon. http://www.amazon.com/High-Temp-Lit...68922&sr=8-13&keywords=lithium+complex+grease

durallymax · Feb 23, 2014

Rob Rodriguez said:
Does anyone know what specs to look for when purchasing a lithium complex grease nlgi2? What makes it a high temp? I found a deal on for the pail size on amazon. http://www.amazon.com/High-Temp-Lit...68922&sr=8-13&keywords=lithium+complex+grease

Are you planning on using it for something other than skid steer pins? Heat doesn't really matter then. For loader pins you want high Timken load and low washout. Lithium greases aren't the best for that, aluminum or calcium thickener greases are better.

I switched to using TRC's 880 Crown Chassis a couple months ago, its noticable how much better it stays in the pins than the Delo and the Delo was light years ahead of what we were using before. There's no Moly in it, but the moly isn't needed when the grease actually stays in there. Moly coats the surfaces and provide a barrier for when the grease breaks down or washes out.

Here's a video on the TRC880, it has a Timken load of 100lbs where as the stuff in your link is rated at 35lbs. 880 was originally developed to support 3 miles of drill pipe though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om3Us6MQmhk

Rob Rodriguez · Feb 23, 2014

Thanks for the info. I was looking for a good low cost all purpose high temp grease. The Pail of Sinopec hi-temp ep lithium complex nlgi 2 is selling for much less delivered.

blitz138 · Feb 27, 2014

Rob Rodriguez said:
Thanks for the info. I was looking for a good low cost all purpose high temp grease. The Pail of Sinopec hi-temp ep lithium complex nlgi 2 is selling for much less delivered.

No offense Rob but good and low cost usually dont go together, especially when it comes to grease. Like I stated in the other grease thread Sinopec is a chinese product. Think before you buy.
Heres my shameless plug
http://www.belray.com/sites/default... Extreme Pressure High Viscosity Grease_5.pdf
We have another grease with more tackifer in it but is usually used for extremely wet (underwater) conditions.

durallymax, any idea what the 4 ball tests are on that 880 crown? Timken EP test is usually used for testing EP gear oils, the 4 ball tests are what is used to rate grease. For any grease to be called "EP" it has to carry at least a 250 kg 4ball weld.

durallymax · Feb 27, 2014

blitz138 said:
No offense Rob but good and low cost usually dont go together, especially when it comes to grease. Like I stated in the other grease thread Sinopec is a chinese product. Think before you buy.
Heres my shameless plug
http://www.belray.com/sites/default... Extreme Pressure High Viscosity Grease_5.pdf
We have another grease with more tackifer in it but is usually used for extremely wet (underwater) conditions.

durallymax, any idea what the 4 ball tests are on that 880 crown? Timken EP test is usually used for testing EP gear oils, the 4 ball tests are what is used to rate grease. For any grease to be called "EP" it has to carry at least a 250 kg 4ball weld.

315kg 4 ball EP

0.33mm scar 4 ball wear

kb9tci · Mar 4, 2014

I like Schaeffer Oil's grease line. That stuff is ridiculously sticky. I've used a few different formulations of their product and have had fantastic luck with it. I did not know much about it until a company I used to work for turned me onto it. It seems to not pound out very quickly or dry out. If I was to service a piece of somebody's equipment that would not see a grease gun until it was broken again and back in the shop, that is the first grease I would put in it. It's not cheap, though.

http://www.schaefferoil.com/greases.html has Technichal Data Sheets. :dizzy

I use Mystic High Temp as my GP grease. It seems to hold up pretty good, too.

durallymax · Mar 4, 2014

Yes their 221 and 229 are both well liked. Ive seen it cheaper than TRC880 and was planning on trying some of it as well.

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