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S. Madill, Blacksmith, Founded in 1911 in Nanaimo BC

Kiwi Logger

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our New 046 in the Workshop in Maramarua as you can see not too much isnt getting touched. Engine out, torque out cab refurb paint all new lines etc etc should be looking good when back at work. Will post some more when we get it up and running hopefully in a few weeks.046 1.jpg046 2.jpg
 

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That looks like a nice machine. Did you buy it from Pyramid Logging and is it still their name/logo there on the side? Do you have a picture of their logo before you repaint it?
 

Kiwi Logger

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Yes their logo is still on the side, I guess maybe late next week it will get painted if I get back to the shop I will get a photo of their logo before it disappears.
 

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Ok, great! Do you btw remember the 046 with the rounded cover on the opposite of cab side? It was a modification made in H&W's shop on request from the operator that wanted to have some better control of the chaser. Machine is presently working for H&W.
 

MikeKB

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The other day I was watching an episode of Ax Men and the Lemare Lake crew was using an 044 grapple yarder in an unusual way by have a winch block? instead of a grapple rather than a grapple. Excuse my ignorance, but why would you use grapple yarder without a grapple. When I was wrenching in the woods, I never saw a grapple yarder used in that capacity. The operator even stated he has run it that way for 25 plus years. Seems like over kill for this machine.
 

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The other day I was watching an episode of Ax Men and the Lemare Lake crew was using an 044 grapple yarder in an unusual way by have a winch block? instead of a grapple rather than a grapple. Excuse my ignorance, but why would you use grapple yarder without a grapple. When I was wrenching in the woods, I never saw a grapple yarder used in that capacity. The operator even stated he has run it that way for 25 plus years. Seems like over kill for this machine.

I have seen videos of swing yarders running chokers.
 

BDFT

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If you have low deflection or can't use a mobile backspar then chokers are far superior, in terms of production, than a grapple. In steep ground where the rules prohibit the building of a backspar trail, you have to stump rig the back end. That's a lot of stumps if you just have a grapple. They make a combination dropline carriage and grapple for just this reason. Unchain the grapple, slide some chokers on and you're back yarding.
For example: http://www.jlogging.com/crgspec.html
http://www.jlogging.com/crgreev.html
 
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TorkelH

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I have seen some swing yarders in the US and they tend to run skyline and gravity with motorized slackpuller, but I know about a few have been using grapples (for example Weyerhaeuser) in recent years. I think both Jeremy70 and me uploaded videos on Youtube of Dahlgren using msp on an 124 and also Jeremys videos of Vannatta using grapple on a Skagit GT4.

I also saw the Lake Lemare Logging's 144 on Axe men and was very surprised that the experienced operator never had used a grapple before, in BC I mean, since 95% of the swing yarders I have seen in BC have been running grapples.

The difference between US and BC has something with logging road density and construction regimes to do, log size (old growth/second growth) and of course culture.
 

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046 slackline ready for work

Madill 046 #10001 - first Kalama built 046, from 1977. Now in South Oregon ready to be rigged and in like new condition!
 

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furpo

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If you have low deflection or can't use a mobile backspar then chokers are far superior, in terms of production, than a grapple. In steep ground where the rules prohibit the building of a backspar trail, you have to stump rig the back end. That's a lot of stumps if you just have a grapple. They make a combination dropline carriage and grapple for just this reason. Unchain the grapple, slide some chokers on and you're back yarding.
For example: http://www.jlogging.com/crgspec.html
http://www.jlogging.com/crgreev.html

Really; we grapple on stumps frequently and produce a significant amount more than on strops. A good operator will grab timber off line so the line changes will be further and fewer. A good spotter will be organised with pre set line shifts. Only major draw back is the lack off height so usually the last tree has to be stropped. The grapple wins almost every time.
 

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We should start a special therapy section for those who have worked for Lemare Lake Logging ...and the Duke.
 

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Kiwi Logger

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Would have been a better photo if the loaders weren't in the way, Slacklining with the 046 two big 5 plus tonne logs these are making it work. Typical cold wet winters day in the Whareratas.046.jpg
 

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Ahhhh.... The lil 225 Woo with an 870 Keto.
That was processing when I was loading for Pulley on the Cushman job for M&R.
 
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