Stone Slinger

rino1494 said:

How much do these guys charge for that ??

I can't see it being cost effective. For foundations, we place the stone with the excavator or we will dump the stone right in the hole and I take the dozer down in and spread it.

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One of the replies says 125 an hour.

I think it can be cost effective on the right job, with the right circumstance. Take for instance if you had to spread 15 yards of top soil. Typically you may use either a skidsteer, or if your a scab contractor you might hire day labor and lots of wheelbarrows. THis would take hours and maybe youve got a job where you need the skidsteer someplace else. So if you used to slinger, you could just have them deliver and spead at the same time, making it done wayyy faster then the "conventional" method.

LaLaMan said:

One of the replies says 125 an hour.

I think it can be cost effective on the right job, with the right circumstance. Take for instance if you had to spread 15 yards of top soil. Typically you may use either a skidsteer, or if your a scab contractor you might hire day labor and lots of wheelbarrows. THis would take hours and maybe youve got a job where you need the skidsteer someplace else. So if you used to slinger, you could just have them deliver and spead at the same time, making it done wayyy faster then the "conventional" method.

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I am sure that they prolly have a 3 hr minimum. You prolly pay from the time they leave till the time they get back.

rino1494 said:

I am sure that they prolly have a 3 hr minimum. You prolly pay from the time they leave till the time they get back.

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There is i believe a 2 hour minimum, and they also have about an hour to an hour and a half of drive time till they get to my area, but they dont start billing untill they hit the pit. This is just how the company in my area does things, and its actually very slick setup under the right circumstances.

Here they generally charge by the load, but the price will vary depending on the distance involved. Also we're fortunate that there are pits relatively close, I'm right in the middle of three pits, I can be at any of the three in 5 to 10 minutes. About 15 minutes will take you from the pits to the city where the main 'market' is.

Mark

greywynd said:

Here they generally charge by the load, but the price will vary depending on the distance involved. Also we're fortunate that there are pits relatively close, I'm right in the middle of three pits, I can be at any of the three in 5 to 10 minutes. About 15 minutes will take you from the pits to the city where the main 'market' is.

Mark

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Cas came out with a system to suppliment the setup. WHat it is, is another conveyer, thats feeds the bin, so the operation can be continious. So its set up as a tag along with the main unit. So forinstance the truck would roll up on site, and dump trucks, would feed into the slinger; much like a concrete pump.

Out here they are called "agra-cats".

When I used to do concrete work we would have them on out difficult sites to backfill basements. We built ICF buildings and often we would form and pour the footing, and then have 1' of 1 1/4" stone blown in to provide a nice dry work environment for stacking the ICF. A lot of the holes we worked in were up to 18' deep.

We've also used them to "blow" aggegate into pole buildings that have already been built and are now having a concrete floor put in. A good operator can get the finish grade in minutes, compared to spending an hour with a skid steer.

The quarry near me has a couple. They look like a great piece of machinery to have since it can hual and "sling" so many different materails.:yup There is also this machine which may actually work better in most cases. You can put just about any materail you want into this one too. I actually think it would be worth the $$$$ compared to the stone slinger.

http://expressblower.com/

jazak said:

The quarry near me has a couple. They look like a great piece of machinery to have since it can hual and "sling" so many different materails.:yup There is also this machine which may actually work better in most cases. You can put just about any materail you want into this one too. I actually think it would be worth the $$$$ compared to the stone slinger.

http://expressblower.com/

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From what I understand, the blowers work better for soils and mulch. It would struggle with sand and rock, however the slinger can do all. But the slinger isnt nearly as accurate as the blower. And that info was from a rep at CAS, which is owned by Rexus, which makes the blower you posted a link to.

Both peices of equipment are very, very expensive. But as in contruction, people will pay more for a machine to do it, as long as it equals less man hours.

Stone Slingers.

There's a company nearby Albany, NY...(Carver,) that has a couple of these "stone slingers" mounted on Western Star triaxles.

Never saw one in operation, but judging by the name of the device, and not being the sharpest tool in the shed myself, I'm not so sure I'd want to be standing out behind 'er when the PTO gets engaged...:spaz

I could see a tremendous need for these contraptions in a lot of different locations where access with a hoe, for example, is tough. Filling inside a poured wall, stoning under a slab, footing drainage, etc. I've utilized our local concrete delivery trucks on jobs before, having them bring me 10 yards of stone in a mixer. They charge a measly $1.50/yard more than if brought by a dump truck, and I can have the driver of a front discharger come up to the side of a foundation and "pour" the stone around inside, and a good driver will do such a good job, you barely have to kick the stone around with your shoes when he's done to pour the floor...

i do flatwork concrete and this is the only way we get our stone, the one trucking outfit has a few slingers along with their equipment and dumps. this particular outfit charges by the ton i believe, and a truck fully loaded around here can carry roughly 20.45 tons. its very effective timewise and labor-wise too. i am youger, we'll say just of age to be working construction, and i have placed over 40 tons of stone by myself in under half a day, that included placing the tile around the footer and placing the sump crock, and some other miscelaneous stuff. i am looking into someday starting my own slinger service, i was hoping to gain some sort of input from here so if anyone runs/owns one please feel free to chime in. and anyone else who has any questions feel free to ask, i am around one just about every single day.:usa

stone slinger in action

pretty cool to see one of these work if you want to see video go to www.jamconstruction.com click on visuals then click on videos 4 videos of one in action::cool2

There's an outfit over by Schenectady, NY that has one I watched build a rough driveway into a site one day. I guarantee you, a man doesn't wanna be behind it when the driver flips the P.T.O. in gear...:spaz

Really a cool piece of iron to have around though!:thumbsup

Be nice to have at a hockey game, all preloaded, when a brawl breaks out in the field, as long as it's outside. You'd have total control over the situation in no time... Don't think it'd be too good to use in an indoor rink.:drinkup

around here we just use as gradall material handler with a 1.5 yard bucket to spread the base before they pour.

Stone Slinger Providers

J.M. Pereira & Sons,Inc. out of Langhorne, PA rents Slingers.

The advantage of a slinger vs. other equipment is that it can both deliver and place the material. So you have to weight the cost of the slinger against the cost of material delivery and the equipment hours you lose placing it once you've got it on site.

Another benefit is that none of the stone/mulch/topsoil a slinger delivers is lost to a stockpile.