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F350 with "Death Wobble"

CM1995

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Actually installed horizontal drains in a slide area and contractor did a rock buttress on a section of Hwy 31 between Vestavia Hills and Homewood. ;)

Ahh horizontal drains, I remembered it had something to do with drilling.

LOL, I hijacked my own thread.:D From F350 death wobble to horizontal drains, you never know what you're going to get on HEF when two Mods get to posting in the same thread.:tong
 

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Well, we're just killing time having a conversation until we get the news that stabilizer did the trick. :drinkup
 

FSERVICE

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willie when are they going to start building on them basements you keep driving over in the vids?? lol i cant say alot tho the next county over from me has worse roads than you do there:eek:
 

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LoL, it's not my roads FSERVICE, that's a road from CM's home state of Alabama. I just have to "rub it in" at him. :D
 

CM1995

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Well, we're just killing time having a conversation until we get the news that stabilizer did the trick. :drinkup

So far so good. I have hit every pothole on the back roads around my house. The real test will be tomorrow on I-65..
 

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Hi HEF, Sounds like the problem i have with my F250, I changed everything out, and wheel ali-ment, I though it was fixed untill i hit another bridge line.
I think i will have to redo the bushings and ball joints, tire air pressure my ass, I have an old F150, 80 model and nave never had a problem, old big foot just keeps rolling, I have been a Ford man all my life, but this death wobble thing has put a real space between me and Ford Motor Co. I saw a kit they say that fixes the problem but it was $800, and sure about that. wosama
 

390eric

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Usually death wobble is a worn out bushing in the suspension or balljoints. The steering stabilzer covers this up. I am big into lifted big tired trucks, know a thing or twoabout building front suspensions. I would advise with your truck the balljoints will probably need replaced soon with your mileage and the weight of that diesel on them. Also the track bar bushings are real big problem. The only thing the stabilzer is really meant for is to absorb shock when you hit that big pothole, usaully with death wobble there is more to it. Everything might seem good and tight now, but wouldnt be surprised if you are going to need some new parts in the near future.
 

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Just an update. I have a new steering stabilizer, new shocks and new tires - truck rides like new. Time will tell if the death wobble comes back but for now it's great. Here's to hoping the economy gets better and I can jack that one up and put a new one underneath it in the near future.:drinkup:D
 

BKrois

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I had a bad wobble/vibration on my 04 F350 diesel, turned out to be a bad front passenger side hub.
 

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For the life of me, I can't remember where I read this, or what truck it was a problem with, but ovalled out holes where suspension components bolt or rivet to the frame can cause death wobble. Not something that you would think to check, because it should never be loose or worn out, as it should be a fixed connection.
 

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I thought only Model T's got a death wobble in the steering? :D Had a friend who restored a Model T, he spent years restoring it - then sold it within weeks of getting it on the road, because he couldn't handle the death wobble in the steering! :D

Here's my .02c worth:

1. Install a heavy duty steering damper on the track rod.
2. Replace front shocks with a premium brand heavy duty gas shocks.
3. Balance front wheels, and brake rotors, too.
4. Inspect all front end rubber bushings and replace those that show signs of wear, or are spongy.

I owned a SWB '77 4WD F100 that had the long-radius-rod-supported, Dana solid front axle. This thing was a beast, it originally came with manual steering, and was all over the road from new.
Fitted power steering when nearly new, and that improved it some, by reducing the number of turns lock-to-lock and providing more control.

Never had a death wobble problem, but this thing was a beast on dirt roads at speed when lightly loaded. You'd hit washboard on one side and it would be sideways within seconds, as the washboard impact went straight back to the centre of the chassis via those long radius rods, and pushed the back sideways. If you weren't on the ball with lightning reflexes, you'd be off the road, or on your roof before you knew it!

The huge tyres on the F series provide a lot of rotating weight to start death wobbles if they become unbalanced. Had a problem a few times with mud buildup on the inside of the rim, creating sudden massive imbalance.
 

d9gdon

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I thought only Model T's got a death wobble in the steering? :D Had a friend who restored a Model T, he spent years restoring it - then sold it within weeks of getting it on the road, because he couldn't handle the death wobble in the steering! :D

Here's my .02c worth:

1. Install a heavy duty steering damper on the track rod.
2. Replace front shocks with a premium brand heavy duty gas shocks.
3. Balance front wheels, and brake rotors, too.
4. Inspect all front end rubber bushings and replace those that show signs of wear, or are spongy.

I owned a SWB '77 4WD F100 that had the long-radius-rod-supported, Dana solid front axle. This thing was a beast, it originally came with manual steering, and was all over the road from new.
Fitted power steering when nearly new, and that improved it some, by reducing the number of turns lock-to-lock and providing more control.

Never had a death wobble problem, but this thing was a beast on dirt roads at speed when lightly loaded. You'd hit washboard on one side and it would be sideways within seconds, as the washboard impact went straight back to the centre of the chassis via those long radius rods, and pushed the back sideways. If you weren't on the ball with lightning reflexes, you'd be off the road, or on your roof before you knew it!

The huge tyres on the F series provide a lot of rotating weight to start death wobbles if they become unbalanced. Had a problem a few times with mud buildup on the inside of the rim, creating sudden massive imbalance.

Oz, those Fords were like herding a hundred head of goats down the road by yourself.
 

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Death wobble:

Well here... some interesting reading.
:professor... lol​

Some more....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_oscillation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroelasticity#Flutter


The old "tank-slapper" got me back in the 70's, and I fractured a cervical vertebra.

That's why I'm so mean to grandpa... from the "pain in the neck"... lol


OzDozer said:
You'd hit washboard on one side and it would be sideways within seconds, as the washboard impact went straight back to the centre of the chassis via those long radius rods, and pushed the back sideways.

Lol, know all about that... 63 years on gravel roads.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishtailing




OCR
 

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I have a super duty that has had a shake/vibration in it for over 30k miles at 45 mph with no success in finding out what is causing it we finally gave up trying to find it. Tires, rims, rotors, suspension, u-joints, and many other parts with no improvement.
 

Paps3211

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I have an 05 f350 and I know tht wobble too well. I took the truck back to ford and they replaced a few shocks etc and added some stabilizer and its better
 

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I had a 78 GMC 2500 that did this as well. New tie rod ends cured it for me, haven't had it happen to anything else since though and that includes a 95 F 350 that I put 305000 miles on.
 

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Oxbow, was that 95 F350 a 4wd? It seems this exact wobble is only supposed to be Ford solid axle trucks
 

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Oxbow, was that 95 F350 a 4wd? It seems this exact wobble is only supposed to be Ford solid axle trucks

Yep, 4wd crew cab long box - solid front axle. I have 05 and 08 F 350 crew cabs now and as of yet had not had these problems. The 05 only has 160,000 miles and the 08 150,000 miles though.
 
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