best grease?

Martman36 said:

the water wash out looks to be too high on this product....everything else looks good.
water wash out for the northwest should be max 3%

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Ya the grease that JHESL is refering to is this one

http://www.belray.com/sites/default/files/pds_files/Termalene Heavy Duty Construction Grease_0.pdf

Martman36 said:

Have the lincolns not been sent to China for the manufacturing?
The batteries have a horrendous recall since, according to warrenty reports.

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I think you were responding to the electric grease gun in a different thread

Thixogrease is a good brand of grease. It is ideal for applications with high temperature or extreme pressure. It has also superior protection against corrosion and rust, and at the same time, it is also water wash resistant.
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Awsome grease!

Hey guys,

Lubemaster, a division of Certified Labs has a grease with an aluminum complex base with moly and graphite. It`s called Premalube. It`s a multi-purpose, heavy load, extreme pressure, high temperature grease specifically formulated for heavy industrial equipment. It will stay in place under heavy loads, performs better than the Amsoil youtube video. Has a high dropping point of 500°F and does wash out. It`s marine grade. It will outperform any other grease on the market. I`ve tried it multiple demonstrations against other greases and none perform on the same level. Check it out!

Premalube said:

Hey guys,

Lubemaster, a division of Certified Labs has a grease with an aluminum complex base with moly and graphite. It`s called Premalube. It`s a multi-purpose, heavy load, extreme pressure, high temperature grease specifically formulated for heavy industrial equipment. It will stay in place under heavy loads, performs better than the Amsoil youtube video. Has a high dropping point of 500°F and does wash out. It`s marine grade. It will outperform any other grease on the market. I`ve tried it multiple demonstrations against other greases and none perform on the same level. Check it out!

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Thanks Premalube for such a useful information.:notworthy I will check out it definitely.

loving caterpillar ultra 5. contain 5% moly, if you dont use this on the cat graders it voids your warranty, has a very high shock and load capability.

Permalube did not tell everyone that if you use a Aluminum complex based grease you must flush your components first since Aluminum based grease is not compatible with other lithium based greases.

140Monster said:

loving caterpillar ultra 5. contain 5% moly, if you dont use this on the cat graders it voids your warranty, has a very high shock and load capability.

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I've tried the CAT Ultra 5 Moly grease, which is available locally from our Cat dealer, and it is good grease, but it is not as good as the Belray High Viscosity Moly that I'm using now, for what we're using it for anyway.

We use the Cat Ultra 5 moly and I'd agree with that comment, it's an extremely good grease for heavily-loaded applications. What's the price difference between the Cat grease and the Bel-Ray..? I've always had very good experience with Bel-Ray greases but they were always extremely expensive compared to other products on the market.

By the way the comment about voiding warranty if you don't use a specific grease on M Series is incorrect as far as I know. The O&M Manuals for all the M Series graders all recommend Ultra Moly 5 for "Heavy Load Factor" applications (Ditching, fill spreading, spreading base material, ripping, heavy road maintenance, heavy snow plowing.) For "Medium" applications (Average road maintenance, road mix work, scarifying, snow plowing) the O&M calls for Cat Advanced Moly 3, and for "Light" applications (Finish grading, light maintenance, road travel.) it calls for Cat Multipurpose grease. Of course all the previous information could also include the wording "or a similar specification grease from another lubricant manufacturer" IMHO.

Hey Nige. It would be hard for me to answer on the price, as I'm getting a reduced price from Belray for buying in fairly large quantities (like 12 5-gallon buckets at a time), and I have to pay freight and import duties on it. I get it from them for around US$135 per 5 gallon pail. For me, the CAT grease is much more expensive, as I would buy that locally, and the local dealer has to make his profit and then some, so he sells te CAT Ultra 5 Moly for CI$255 per pail, which is US$318!!! CAT parts and service here are beyond ridiculous, which is why I only own Hitachi/Deere machines. I guess that's what happens when you buy a large franchise for a small market.
I only bought the CAT grease once (when I ran out and was desperate) and it worked good, but I still don't think it is as good at staying in the joint as the Belray High Viscosity Moly, and cost me twice as much. Plus, the Belray folks (like Blitz138) give me real good customer service, and I believe in that, so I'm sticking with Belray.

Glad the grease is working for you Sammy.

Nige I can get you pricing, ill send you an email.

You will not void warranty by using a different grease then the Cat grease as long as it meets the specs that CAT has put out. Its called the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act, its federal law. The law basically states that you can not dictate OEM manufactured parts unless you give them for free. This could apply to grease, oil, or any other consumable.

JTWAT said:

Permalube did not tell everyone that if you use a Aluminum complex based grease you must flush your components first since Aluminum based grease is not compatible with other lithium based greases.

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This is not always true. You can not go off the charts stating what thickeners are compatible with what. Different charts have totally different conclusions. I would do compatibility testing just to be on the safe side though.

This is what I use for now. OLD STOCK

What I have for now is some grease I bought at a silent auction to benefit Relay for Life. I've had this stuff for 8-10yrs. and it was long before I had my excavator and really had no real need for it but was the best thing I could throw money at given available selection,(I'm not much for nic,nacs) forget what I paid for it(think it was $10. for 10 tubes) Tried to post pic but failed. will you give opinion on how this compares to the better greases mentioned in this thread. I really want to try shaefer, spelling? 238. But I MAY use 2-3 tubes a year, small machine and certainly don't run everyday. and I have 5 or 6 grease guns laying around. I would like to get rid of this stock or I may Ebay it LOL.

This is BP grease, Energrease LC-EP 2
its extreme pressure, Very high Temperature.. NLGI & GC-LB
So its lithium complex NLGI No.2 Temp. range -10-300 F.
for ball, roller and sleeve bearings including with disc brakes, farm, construction, industrial,
mining equipment, motors, pumps and there's more.
BUT. no moly.!.? is this right.?

Would you guys use this up? I'm very interested in this subject and didn't realize there was so many variables and do's and don'ts. But I have sure learned a bunch in these 13 pages.
Thank you to all.

Do you mean BP Energrease LS instead of LC..? Is it a buttery yellow colour..? If so I've just looked at the Data Sheet on BP's web site and quite honestly I'd think twice about using it on my pickup truck, let alone on construction equipment.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_int...a/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/b/BP7137.pdf

Pretty sure its LC ? on the label it states its lithium complex hinse the prefix LC. but it is a tan or darker yellow color.
There is no telling how old it is and may have been discontinued before I got a hold of it, 10-15 yrs. or maybe older. I forgot I had it and just started 1st tube and thunked I should ask about it.
This is why I wanted another opinion. I can always run it on the mower or less critical equipment.
This would give me reason to go ahead and buy some better known quality grease.

It's pretty old, Lectro. Have the tubes leaked at all? Most will after a couple of years, especially if left outside in a hot climate. If they have leaked, that means the grease is breaking down. I'm not familiar with BP lube products at all, never used any in 45 years in the heavy equipment industry. But, I don't believe I'd use the stuff as it's so old.

You would be better off finding a good grease containing Moly. It's not that expensive. Some I've used are Shell, Texaco (favorite!), Mobil, and Chevron.


Good Luck!

There is no seepage; tubes look good and grease is as it should be, but the quality may be lacking due to the compound components or lack thereof.
This grease has been stored in-doors, so it all looks good.

This is a run of the mill EP Lithium complex grease with nothing really special about it. Shelf life is 5 years max, it doesn't matter if you can see if there is something wrong with it. Throw it in the garbage. If you only use 3 or 4 tubes a year go spend a little cash to get some new grease.


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I just looked at the PDS sheet, they list the 4 ball at 2600 N . This seemed screwy to me as its usually listed in kilograms, once in awhile in lbs, but never in newtons. 2600 newtons = 265 kgs? If my math is right.

It seems to me it was a subpar grease to start out with, now that its 10 years old it will have degraded badly.

WELL, I must first thank everybody for all the knowledge I gained from the 14 pages on this matter.
Which prompted me to ask the question to begin with.

I located local Scheaffer rep, bought 2 tubes of 238 #2. WHAT A DIFFERENCE, A case 30 on the way.(lifetime supply LOL) on another note I used to run their oil in my stroker Harley but had forgot about it, I knew this name Schaeffer seemed familiar.

We use hydrotex grease on our forestry equipment. Tried shaeffer and didn't have much luck. Especially on pins with brass bushings