We're nearing completion of my shop project, its long and complicated story, we did a remodel on an older dairy barn, put in my new service pit and are getting things moved in, now for the shop door, which shouldn't be hard to do, but like everything else with this project, it turns out its tougher than I thought. I don't want to hang any door on my building, we want a free standing door and use flashing to connect it to the building, I'm wanting a hydraulic door, one piece open up and be done with it, the measurments are roughly 32 feet wide by 20 feet high, every door maker wants to hang it off my building, I say no, we've had enough problems already and I don't want any more complications, my opening is roughly 30x20 but in order to do the remodel we had to hang rafters 20 feet up and use knee braces back to the walls for support, so the acuall full opening width is 30x14 high with staight sidewalls and then it tapers in some and the free span width in the middle is 23 feet wide at the 20 feet of height, no big deal till we come to the door, a regular garage door style won't work due to the end wall configuation and I want the full height in the center of the building, I'm not wanting a door height of 14 feet then the inside building height of 20, if that makes sense.
We've been going around looking at buildings with different doors on them, and to say the least I'm not impressed with most out there, they all put a lot of stress on the builidng as they open and close, even bifold doors I'd need a complete free standing header mechanism to make it work without putting stress on the building.
Anyone have any experince with a free standing header and door assembly, the door makers are not helpfull at all, they all insist I hang it off the building, I'm not an engineer at all, but I found one that designed a barn simular to mine and I talked to him and he told me to "not" hang any kind of door off the building at all, either support the door some other way or shorten the height and put posts to hold up a conventional garage door style door and then go full height once your in the builiding.
As they say we're looking for options and ideas, I'm thinking of a free standing header, with braces coming forward in front of the door to the ground and angled back up to the top of the door header for support, put some x bracing in and make it out of h beams and do it that way, then hang the door off of that, others tell me to cement the supporting h beams into the ground and thats good enough, others still say to brace it off the back side and anchor it into the ground for angled support.
We've been going around looking at buildings with different doors on them, and to say the least I'm not impressed with most out there, they all put a lot of stress on the builidng as they open and close, even bifold doors I'd need a complete free standing header mechanism to make it work without putting stress on the building.
Anyone have any experince with a free standing header and door assembly, the door makers are not helpfull at all, they all insist I hang it off the building, I'm not an engineer at all, but I found one that designed a barn simular to mine and I talked to him and he told me to "not" hang any kind of door off the building at all, either support the door some other way or shorten the height and put posts to hold up a conventional garage door style door and then go full height once your in the builiding.
As they say we're looking for options and ideas, I'm thinking of a free standing header, with braces coming forward in front of the door to the ground and angled back up to the top of the door header for support, put some x bracing in and make it out of h beams and do it that way, then hang the door off of that, others tell me to cement the supporting h beams into the ground and thats good enough, others still say to brace it off the back side and anchor it into the ground for angled support.