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moving Dual Lane Loaders in summer construction season

Iowa

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Any heavy haulers out here that use or know about dual lane loaders? My question for you: How do you handle summer highway construction season, when it seems half the highways are reduced to one lane every few miles or so. Have you find state DOT permitting offices willing to accomodate, do you find severe time restrictions on when you can move, etc? I have something big (understatement) to move later this year, and I'm trying to get a sense of the timeline risks out there.
 

muzy

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If it is that big, then I would think you should start the permit process ASAP.
As road costruction is done with time lines in place for main roadway. Permit office and state has access to projected time lines and route as permited. This process should be left to the pros. Do you have a permit company you trust?
ei, Permit Pro. Glen
 

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yes, agreed this is not a DIY type project :) My supplier of the equipment hasn't yet hired the logistics company who will handle the permitting. This is their responsibility but as the proj mgr I'm on the hook for overall schedule. At this point, there will be approximately 8 weeks between getting a logistics company on board (and therefore earliest start of permitting efforts) and needing to move this thing. They did a route study last year, and found a lot of bridge restrictions which ruled our preferred (shorter) path. So when I look at the DOT website and see 10 major construction projects that close 1 lane on the chosen route, my fear is the supplier which does ship heavy equipment but never a unit that needs a dual lane loader, is taking a somewhat lackadaisical attitude. Is 8 weeks an aggressive timeline, or am I fretting unnecessarily. Maybe the space they allow for one-lane would typically still be wide enough for this vehicle? I appreciate your input.
 

muzy

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As I have no direct involvment with super loads, only as a bystander and helped stack blocks and such.
Alot of planning can happen in 8 weeks. At first some bridges are excluded with only preliminary work done.
An enginer can look closer and see if modifications to your trailer confegeration will fall within bridge specs and alow passage. With his/her stamp on the plan it may make aprovale for the state. Bridge laws are built for uniformaty, many bridges excede the spec.
Those are my thoughts and hersay that I have heard. good luck Glen
 

Dualie

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i would say 8 weeks is VERY aggressive time line depending on the distance needing traveled and overall dimensions of the load. Im guessing by the fact that your actively seeking advice on a dual lane trailer its 300+ tons.

With that time line and your obvious project scope i would dump your current logistics provider ASAP and start immediately dealing with the heavy hitters like Emmert international, Diamond heavy haul, Biggie, or a couple of very select movers and shakers with tons of staff and resources.

I wish you good luck because it sounds like your going to need it.
 

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A recent move around here with a dual lane loader took a year of planning and route surveys. When youget into that size of a move I would be surprised to see anyone pull it off in 8 weeks. Maybe if the company has already done similar moves on the same route, but even then it may be questionable.
 

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what kind of weights are and sizes are ACTUALLY dealing with so we can tell you how screwed you actually are.
 

rigandig

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It all depends on the size and weight, how far you are moving it, etc. I started 6 weeks ago approx setting up a move from Wi to Souther Ca. Is set to load the 4th of next month. Just got the first m/t permit to move to Wi on Friday. Should have the other states next week. That is the easy part. Well, not as hard as the loaded part anyway. But that was and is all about where ya can and can't go. Dim are not to terribly bad when m/t. 16' wide, 128' long, legal height, 148K tare wt. The loaded portion, after many many phone calls, will have the application process started in earnest Monday. At this point we have a county permit for the roads we'll be using to access the state highways and an approval from the state,,,verbally. The rest of the states have been contacted and the wrinkles will be ironed out once the hard paperwork hits their offices. Have had route surveys done on most of it, but will most likely have to update those to meet the criteria for "recent" needed by most states.It is an evolving process.
I do have a good route thru Iowa from Mo to SD but will not be using it. I spoke with Iowa early on and they told me that they have more road construction projects this summer than they have ever had . I'll PM my cell number to you if you want some pointers.
What you were told yesterday can change today over all sorts of issues. And yes, even after the permits are issued , the same thing can happen.
 
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9Axle

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I just finished up a dule lane load out of huston,tx to city of industrie 638000lbs 20 ft wide 19'6 high 185ft long 7 days to cross tx 1.5 days NM 5 days across AZ 4 days CA.we have 5 of them to move at that size this summer,2 more to go. lots of route surveys and police bucket trucks ground suport,tires fuel!!!
 

Iowa

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(Damn 9Axle, that's big. They ought to rename this forum "Mine's Bigger".) Thanks, all. This is good information even if it does mean we may be royally screwed. The job site's in Oklahoma, but I don't want to post a lot of specifics about the loads since the supplier says the job hasn't been awarded to a carrier yet. All I can do at this point I guess is to keep on top of the supplier to get weekly updates on permitting. And remind them of the liquidated damages clause in the supply contract. Last time I checked "Oops didn't leave time for permitting" is not force majeure.
 

rigandig

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Looks like 9 axle has his summer laid out for him.
As ya get further along and need help or have more questions,,, or get one to many oops's. LOL
 

9Axle

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my summer is always up in the air i got off the duel lane and started pulling a 11 axle hauling nacells out of tehachapie,ca to broken bow ,NE made two trips and had to take a break for memorial day weekend.lake bound 3 days if only the weather would work in my favior its cold and windy,im going tomarrow rain or shine.
 
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