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Mechanical Gooseneck and a new way to make it easier.

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Dualie

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I have latched the wagon in some pretty dumb spots. But the best idea no matter what style of lowbed your running is to not drop it in dumb spots. Hard level ground is always your best idea. I have picked up a a loaded wagon that had over 38,000 Lbs on the kingpin without any problems at all.

You do have to get in and out of the truck 4 times if your doing it with a truck with no air release 5th wheel. But after having run Both a Non ground bearing and a ground bearing Hyd detach i would trade my Murray mechanical for any other lowbed period.
 
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I have ran a truck that had long enough lines to drop the neck without disconecting them. I tended not to do it much though because it would get them covered in grease when they laid across the fithwheel.
 
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Chaz Murray

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Dualie said:
They make a system to auto eject air lines for fire trucks while they are parked in the station house. They leave them tethered to shop air until they are started and rolling out the door and they automatically spit the air line and battery charge lines off. I wounder if you could mount a system like that to the neck and get by the DOT? with a four pin connector and enough slack in the lines you wouldn't need to get out the cab until you were fully disconnected.
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Don't think we did not think about that! ;) Just figured it would be cost prohibitive so just left it the way it was for the air and electrical. There is a point where you need to draw a line in saving time and cost...I think that was the line that we found ;)
 
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Whats another $1500? The way i look at it is one less trip in and out of the truck is one less chance some crazy 4 wheeler has to put me 6 feet under. Or one less chance i have to bust my azz with muddy boots.

is this option retrofitable to older Murray wagons or do you have to buy a new wagon designed for the feature?
 
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All I'm saying is that there are times I can't get hooked to an empty trailer in my yard in the winter, because of the snow and ice. I guess everything has it place. As for getting in and out of the truck, I could get away with one trip, but I make it two. I get out, unchain, then get back in to turn on the hydro's. I like to unchain before breaking down, had guys jump in the machine and fire it up while I was still taking the chains off.
 
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Dualie

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i have never had to load in the ice so im not going to comment. Probobly why these are CA legal 16 tire wagons. I don't think i ever care to find out what works in the snow and ice either.

But i do know they use the hell out of the Murray and cozad mechanical detach wagons in the Alberta oilfields and logging all winter long. Even up the winter roads in Alaska they have them
 
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Chaz Murray

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Dualie said:
Whats another $1500? The way i look at it is one less trip in and out of the truck is one less chance some crazy 4 wheeler has to put me 6 feet under. Or one less chance i have to bust my azz with muddy boots.

is this option retrofitable to older Murray wagons or do you have to buy a new wagon designed for the feature?
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Yes it can be retrofitted to an older trailer.
 
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Dualie said:
I have latched the wagon in some pretty dumb spots. But the best idea no matter what style of lowbed your running is to not drop it in dumb spots. Hard level ground is always your best idea. I have picked up a a loaded wagon that had over 38,000 Lbs on the kingpin without any problems at all.

You do have to get in and out of the truck 4 times if your doing it with a truck with no air release 5th wheel. But after having run Both a Non ground bearing and a ground bearing Hyd detach i would trade my Murray mechanical for any other lowbed period.
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The guy in the video got out 4 times with a air release 5th wheel... I don't know. Still just doesn't seem practical for normal use. If all you were dropping on was hard pack dirt or other hard surfaces maybe. I'd personally like to see a demonstration in the dirt. I think the angle only seems so bad because the truck is aired up and the bags aren't dumped. I feel like its really a perfect conditions only system.
 
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Dualie

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besides the fact they are heavy, slow, and require far more complexity and things to go wrong that the mechanical detach. Oh only about 100 more reasons.
 
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