HANOMAG60E
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Sorry for digging up an old thread but it seems that I am not yet aloud to start a new thread.
I am in need of some advice rather sharpish as the company I work for will be purchasing a new loader very soon and I am after as much info as I can get.
Basicly the new machine will be replacing a 1989 Hanomag 60E,the more we have looked into replacing this machine the harder we are finding it,this hanomag really has been a cracking machine over the years and I beleave it would still hold its own with much more modern equipment.
The thing with the hanomag is that it has LSD’s in both axles, and this is something that we beleave we really need as the machine is to work in a chalk quarry and when its wet it’s a nightmare to get grip.
The new loader will not be brand new but second hand and we are looking for something in the 18-23ton weight with a £40-70kmax gbp budget range.
We had originally been considering a 2005 high lift cat 950g series 2 but after looking into this abit we think that the lack of lsd’s will make it a nightmare to load with in the wet.
We are also concerned about the stability of the machine with the high lift arms and also the digging power of this machine.
All the clips on youtube that I have seen always make this machine look a little light on the arse,and the quarrys where I have seen these machines working they always seem to struggle to get a good bucket full.
Do any of you guys have any experience with the cat 950g’s?
Then in the mean time we had hired a 2002 komatso wa380-5,I admit this machine had high hours and was not in the best of condition but if I am honest it was terrible,the hanomag would of run rings around this machine.
They did feel pretty similar(hanomag is/was komatso) but with the lack of lsd’s the komatso struggled to get a decent bucket full, and that was in the dry,I dred to think what it would have been like in the wet but this is what has put us of the cat with no lsd’s.
I wont slag it to much as the machine was well worn but considering it was 10+ years newer than the hanomag with around the same hours it was not impressive atall.
Anyhow we sent this machine back and they sent us a doosan dl400,this machine is obviously bigger than the cat and komatso and hanomag and is border line size wise to what we can get away with, but this is now the type of machine we are now considering buying.
I find this a very impressive machine with great pushing power,digging abilty and overall comfort and driveabilty,we really like this machine.
We also like the fact that it runs a Cummins engine with zf transmission and zf lsd axles,which should be easy to get spares for if it brecks.
Now this is what worries us,the reliability,I am desperate to know other peoples opinions of this machine!
The trouble is since we have had it (2 weeks lol)various things have started to go wrong with it,from silly things like the speedo has stopped working to a steering ram to start leaking and a front brake sound pretty suspect.
The main issue though is we think it has also broken a rear half shaft,As we have lost drive to the rear wheels!
Even so with just fwd this thing still digs well,better than the komatso in fact but these problem have got us worrying,a lot lol.
The other thing that also worries us is that there is also a few vids on youtube of a dl400 with a completely snapped rear axle on exactly the same side that we have had the half shaft go!
How the how do you snap the rear axle in half!!!?
Also the hirer of the doosan says that they brought it with a bodged engine that had picked up on number 1 cylinder and they had to rebuild it, is the Cummins qsl9 a good engine as I have read about other issues of worn out valve seats in this engine on hyundi 770 loaders?
I have also read about injection problems that bore wash the machine and fill the sump with diesel,anyone heard of similar problems?
The only thing I would complain about the engine is it does seem a little turbo laggy in the low revs but really it is not to much of a problem to drive around.
Also I am unsure of the hours of this doosan we have,the clock says 4600 but the hirers mechanic says doosan plugged there computer into it and it has done around 10000hours!
If it really has done 10000 hours it really is doing quite well as it still feels as tight as a drum,but if its 4600hour like the clock says with the above problems its had It worries us quite abit tbh.
Any info on Daewoo/doosan loaders is much appreshated please.
To find a loader in the 18-23ton area with lsd’s is proving differcult within our budget, and it seems all the big brands cat,komatso,Volvo etc don’t come speced with lsd’s as standard and all seem to have to many hours on for are budget.
We are also considering a new Holland w190b but tbh we don’t really know much about this machine other than the fact that it comes speced with lsd’s as standard.
I think it runs a zf transmission but I am unsure of the make of axles and am unsure of the parts avalibilty and reliabilty engine aswell tbh.
Any info on these would be handy also.
Then there is the jcb 456’s and case 821/921’s that also come specced standard with lsd’s, but tbh after looking on youtube and reading a few thing I am not so keen on these loaders.
Any info on these machines is still interesting though.
So I am desperately asking for peoples experiences of cat 950g’s, new Holland w190b’s and specficly doosan dl400’s.
Thanks for any help!
If a mod could move this post and start a new thread in the loaders section it would be appresheated please,I need as much info as I can get as we are very near making a purchase.
I am in need of some advice rather sharpish as the company I work for will be purchasing a new loader very soon and I am after as much info as I can get.
Basicly the new machine will be replacing a 1989 Hanomag 60E,the more we have looked into replacing this machine the harder we are finding it,this hanomag really has been a cracking machine over the years and I beleave it would still hold its own with much more modern equipment.
The thing with the hanomag is that it has LSD’s in both axles, and this is something that we beleave we really need as the machine is to work in a chalk quarry and when its wet it’s a nightmare to get grip.
The new loader will not be brand new but second hand and we are looking for something in the 18-23ton weight with a £40-70kmax gbp budget range.
We had originally been considering a 2005 high lift cat 950g series 2 but after looking into this abit we think that the lack of lsd’s will make it a nightmare to load with in the wet.
We are also concerned about the stability of the machine with the high lift arms and also the digging power of this machine.
All the clips on youtube that I have seen always make this machine look a little light on the arse,and the quarrys where I have seen these machines working they always seem to struggle to get a good bucket full.
Do any of you guys have any experience with the cat 950g’s?
Then in the mean time we had hired a 2002 komatso wa380-5,I admit this machine had high hours and was not in the best of condition but if I am honest it was terrible,the hanomag would of run rings around this machine.
They did feel pretty similar(hanomag is/was komatso) but with the lack of lsd’s the komatso struggled to get a decent bucket full, and that was in the dry,I dred to think what it would have been like in the wet but this is what has put us of the cat with no lsd’s.
I wont slag it to much as the machine was well worn but considering it was 10+ years newer than the hanomag with around the same hours it was not impressive atall.
Anyhow we sent this machine back and they sent us a doosan dl400,this machine is obviously bigger than the cat and komatso and hanomag and is border line size wise to what we can get away with, but this is now the type of machine we are now considering buying.
I find this a very impressive machine with great pushing power,digging abilty and overall comfort and driveabilty,we really like this machine.
We also like the fact that it runs a Cummins engine with zf transmission and zf lsd axles,which should be easy to get spares for if it brecks.
Now this is what worries us,the reliability,I am desperate to know other peoples opinions of this machine!
The trouble is since we have had it (2 weeks lol)various things have started to go wrong with it,from silly things like the speedo has stopped working to a steering ram to start leaking and a front brake sound pretty suspect.
The main issue though is we think it has also broken a rear half shaft,As we have lost drive to the rear wheels!
Even so with just fwd this thing still digs well,better than the komatso in fact but these problem have got us worrying,a lot lol.
The other thing that also worries us is that there is also a few vids on youtube of a dl400 with a completely snapped rear axle on exactly the same side that we have had the half shaft go!
How the how do you snap the rear axle in half!!!?
Also the hirer of the doosan says that they brought it with a bodged engine that had picked up on number 1 cylinder and they had to rebuild it, is the Cummins qsl9 a good engine as I have read about other issues of worn out valve seats in this engine on hyundi 770 loaders?
I have also read about injection problems that bore wash the machine and fill the sump with diesel,anyone heard of similar problems?
The only thing I would complain about the engine is it does seem a little turbo laggy in the low revs but really it is not to much of a problem to drive around.
Also I am unsure of the hours of this doosan we have,the clock says 4600 but the hirers mechanic says doosan plugged there computer into it and it has done around 10000hours!
If it really has done 10000 hours it really is doing quite well as it still feels as tight as a drum,but if its 4600hour like the clock says with the above problems its had It worries us quite abit tbh.
Any info on Daewoo/doosan loaders is much appreshated please.
To find a loader in the 18-23ton area with lsd’s is proving differcult within our budget, and it seems all the big brands cat,komatso,Volvo etc don’t come speced with lsd’s as standard and all seem to have to many hours on for are budget.
We are also considering a new Holland w190b but tbh we don’t really know much about this machine other than the fact that it comes speced with lsd’s as standard.
I think it runs a zf transmission but I am unsure of the make of axles and am unsure of the parts avalibilty and reliabilty engine aswell tbh.
Any info on these would be handy also.
Then there is the jcb 456’s and case 821/921’s that also come specced standard with lsd’s, but tbh after looking on youtube and reading a few thing I am not so keen on these loaders.
Any info on these machines is still interesting though.
So I am desperately asking for peoples experiences of cat 950g’s, new Holland w190b’s and specficly doosan dl400’s.
Thanks for any help!
If a mod could move this post and start a new thread in the loaders section it would be appresheated please,I need as much info as I can get as we are very near making a purchase.
