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D10L. Why Not?

621_Rocker

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I agree in the designation of the D10 as an unofficial D10L in conversation. This being that D10 can also be used generically. Cat made a 621. Many people refer to this as a 621A even though it was just a 621. Later Cat came out with a 621B. If someone says 621 would you know specifically if they were talking about a 621 or a 621B or a 621E or a 621F or a 621G or an upcoming 621H? I have Caterpillar produced literature that refers to a 621 (23H) as a 621A. D10L would mean more to more people than the D10 84W. The lettering implies generation. Why know 621C or 621D? Because they ran the 621B until they updated the other products (631s, 651s) to E models. The D10 84W was closer to the generation of the D9L and D8L.
 

Gavin84w

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We're having so much trouble with 16M's at the moment I even went as far as threatening our local Cat dealer we'd send them back and buy Komatsu GD825s ...... How desperate was that..? Can't keep transmissions in the feckers ........

That is desperation maximus for sure!!!
 

rare ss

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I agree in the designation of the D10 as an unofficial D10L in conversation. This being that D10 can also be used generically. Cat made a 621. Many people refer to this as a 621A even though it was just a 621. Later Cat came out with a 621B. If someone says 621 would you know specifically if they were talking about a 621 or a 621B or a 621E or a 621F or a 621G or an upcoming 621H? I have Caterpillar produced literature that refers to a 621 (23H) as a 621A. D10L would mean more to more people than the D10 84W. The lettering implies generation. Why know 621C or 621D? Because they ran the 621B until they updated the other products (631s, 651s) to E models. The D10 84W was closer to the generation of the D9L and D8L.

I've also heard afew people refer to them as "twin stack" D10's also
 

rare ss

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We're having so much trouble with 16M's at the moment I even went as far as threatening our local Cat dealer we'd send them back and buy Komatsu GD825s ...... How desperate was that..? Can't keep transmissions in the feckers ........

theres afew "loan" 16Ms doing the rounds in WA while all the customers machines are going though our local CAT dealers for warrenty work
 

Gavin84w

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I agree in the designation of the D10 as an unofficial D10L in conversation. This being that D10 can also be used generically. Cat made a 621. Many people refer to this as a 621A even though it was just a 621. Later Cat came out with a 621B. If someone says 621 would you know specifically if they were talking about a 621 or a 621B or a 621E or a 621F or a 621G or an upcoming 621H? I have Caterpillar produced literature that refers to a 621 (23H) as a 621A. D10L would mean more to more people than the D10 84W. The lettering implies generation. Why know 621C or 621D? Because they ran the 621B until they updated the other products (631s, 651s) to E models. The D10 84W was closer to the generation of the D9L and D8L.

If you agree, then i am afraid to say you are wrong.

If someone was talking about a 621 then to me it would be a 621 with a V8 engine and an outboard rear axle retainer. If some one referred to a 621B to me it would be a 3406 equipped machine, i am sorry but to me it is that simple, that is why they have a letter designation to identify them after the first model which if it is given any designation it would be as you say an "A" model, therefore if anything the 84W D10 should really be refered to as a "D10A".


The lettering and generation thing is drawing a long bow in the Case of "L"lettered tractors, the only reason the D9 & D8 had it is because it was a natural progression from there last models, the D10 never had a last model so it can not be an "L"

At the end of the day if you go by Cat,s numbering system there can be no confusion as to what is what, it is only when people dream up there own stuff that it gets all &^%$#@ up.

Very much like a track loader always being called a Drott, an artic truck being called a Moxy and a skid steer loader being called a Bobcat. It is just bull$hit and we should be educating people not letting them go off and be wrong because they heard someone else say it.

Flame away.
 

Dug Overburden

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I use to have a easy conversation when talking about D10's. I would always refer to the 84W/76X as "twin stack D10's, that worked until they upgraded the D10R with the "twin stacks". Now since D10's are scarce everyone refers to any generation as a D10, regardless of series. It's nice when you say something about a D10 & someone answers you back with "you mean the 84W? Then you know you are talking with someone who know tractors.
 

X Quad Operator

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Dug Overburden
When I worked for Fulton He ran D9L's for pushcats and double pushed on the 657's-51's all the time, I got stuck on a D9L pushing a couple days, and then when I worked for Scarsella out of Seattle I ran a D10R and with a dozer on it and I could not tell the difference between the D9L or the D10R yet when you take the D9L or D10R and work them beside a real D10 or D11 the size difference, they look like your working next to a D6 just (comparing size).
 

Scrub Puller

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Yair...not much into remembering models and numbers but what was the scraper I ran for a few days in PNG (late seventy's). It had what I think was the smoky 621 vee eight up front with a straight six down the back. No one seems to know about them but an outfit out of Moresby had a few apparently.
 

Dozerboy

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I think he was just stirring the pot.

Vinci Pacific had a D10 they still ran back in 07. It was on Hot dirt moven SOB.
 
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