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Hough H60-D

lenray

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Have this Hough H 60-D----- don't have a book yet.
Any of you folks have one????
Have a few questions.
What kind of oil for the tranny???? Is it different than what is used in the hyd's????

What is the lever on the right of steering wheel that is hooked to the foot pedal??
Where are the hyd. filters????
It has 3 forward speeds 1---2----3 there is a lockout bolt to keep from going into 3rd. Can override with the lever , but it doesn't seem to move in that gear. Any suggestions on this.

Any other tips you can give me.

Much appreciated for any help. Thanks len in michigan
 

grandkobelco

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Any hy-tran oil will work in the trany. Origanaly it was dextron i think. AW 32 in the hyd. your fillters are in the hyd tank. Not sure about that lever. Make sure the shift valve/spool is reaching full travel with the shift linkage. You should hear a detent "click" when the spool hits 3rd gear
 

lenray

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Any hy-tran oil will work in the trany. Origanaly it was dextron i think. AW 32 in the hyd. your fillters are in the hyd tank. Not sure about that lever. Make sure the shift valve/spool is reaching full travel with the shift linkage. You should hear a detent "click" when the spool hits 3rd gear

Thanks for the info. I will check that detent. If third is out does that have anything to do with first and second??? Seems to have good power in 1st. and 2nd.

I am new to loaders and don't know how they work as to the gearing. I would think that 1st. or 2nd. would get the most use AND THAT 3RD. WOULD NOT GET MUCH USE UNLESS FOR ROADING.

Thanks for your help. I am up at Clare--80 north of Lansing.
 

Kiwi Tussock

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I don't think any Hy-tran oil will be best at all. I had one of these Hough 60 (B)'s and I found it problem-matic until I used 10w in both Trans & Hydr.
What I suggest you do is phone or call into a Oil company's distribution centre and ask them to give you their recommendations.
Or... what I use often for different machines I have, is go to the Valvoline web site and go through the lists and although it may take some time, its worth it.
I'll put the link but you may find you'll need to find the model you have. Its a great site but I guess all the oil companies will have the same sort of site.

http://www.datateck.com.au/lube/valv_auMS/default.asp

All the best
 

grandkobelco

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Our oil dist recomends hytran for these old clark tranys. It's compatable with 10w. What kind of trouble did you have?
 

H60Dragon

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Hi guy's, I'm new here and will probably be a life long member......... I am looking at purchase a Hough H60-D and I though this would be a good place to start... Hey Lenray if you get a book on your H60D could you let me know where you found it, I'd also like to have one. I'm about 99% sure I'm going to buy it, though I was wondering what a you guys thought a fair price would be for a machine of this caliber? It runs and drives good though it leaks fluid from just about every possible part that uses fluids and has no brakes (which i don't really need since it stops when you decelerate. The machine is supposed to have rebuilt hydraulics and a rebuilt cummins inline 6.

Also I will need forks to accomplish its primary jobs and was wondering if anyone here would have advice on where I might find a set, I would need at least a 6 foot fork? Thanks in advance and if anyone here would like to communicate via phone that would also be great.

Any and all information about this payloader would very very much appreciated. Thanks guys
 

Mike Van

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Just my 2 cents here, but I'd keep looking - I just bought an old Trojan loader, I looked at 6 or 8 of them before picking this one. There are lots of them for sale out there, with "everything leaking" as you said, no brakes, etc. I'm glad I was patient and didn't buy the first one I looked at.
 

Invent_4U

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I have beeen registered for some time but due to many irons in the fire I haven't had the chance to meet any of you. Unfortunately in this posting I can only verify what is "Uncommonly Common" I was looking for information from someone on how to back my brakes off on the from of my H60 Payloader (standard frame) but I have noticed a pattern here reguarding 3rd gear. I noticed someone mentioned a stop but doesn't anyone else find it uncommon for so many H60 that only have 1-2-3 gears have 3rd gear that is out. I just bought my H60 this spring but the 3rd gear is supposed to be out of it too. I only know it has a version of a hydrostatic shift (I would call it for lack of a proper term) and 3rd is supposed to be out. I cannot find any manuals that I can afford or I find reasonable I guess. This is the first Hough I have had anything to do with (I have worked mostly on all CAT, Deere or Timberjack machines), but I would like to hear if anyone else finds this strange. I also really need to know how to back my brakes off as for no reason one day they started dragging. I have worked on a lot of equipment with air over hyd. but I have no idea where to adjust the front brakes or where the air release is to see if it is completely releasing. If anyone can help let me know, please. I can help you out with a place to get parts for Hough loaders they are a Kamatu dealer that supports Hough and aren't seeming to be too well versed but they get an A+ for effort from me and can get parts. Here is the contact info for you:
Roland Machinery Co.
604 Stockley Rd.
DeForrest WI Call: 1-608-842-4151 and ask for Dennis Tofte. I hope this helps you or anyone else. These machines are much harder to find info and manuals than CAT or Deere for sure.
 

lenray

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Good to hear from you. My dau. SILAW and 3 grands live in Wisc.
If i put the loader down and lift the front wheels off the ground then it will turn the tires in----3rd.---- forward and reverse.
With the tires on the ground and the weight of the machine and in 3 rd. the loader will not move.

Been told that 1st. and 2nd. are independent from ---3rd.--- and they will work even if 3rd. doesn't.

I can't imagine that 3rd. would have beeen used much, BUT it is out on mine.

Thanks to all of you guys who gave info. More info. will be greatly appreciated.

I have taken the front bucket off and am in the process of installing a snow plow. Will the straight frame old Hough have enough power to push snow????????????????????
 

Invent_4U

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Yeah, lenray. You don’t need to worry about its power my, *Friend in Hough*. I can lock my H60 in and out of 4 wheel drive but locked into 4 wheel drive my Cummins 378C (which a fellow I know that is a diesel Techn ‘Mechanic’ tweeked to the top on the DYNO) can dig down and muscle anything around I have filled my 2 ¼ yard bucket with yet. She even had to do the belly crawl a few times but the old girl ”Just like my wife” the tougher it gets the more she bellers ! Heck, In 2 wheel drive I passed ‘Harleys’ when we were moving machines on the hiway!!!!! They were pulled over to the shoulder but . . . I guess I went too far, huh?

Seriously, I am very happy with it. I have had it since spring and used it a lot. I have hauled a lot of sand, rock and dug out a ton of stumps and have been more than happy with it, I have to say much better than I expected. Then I, for one time in my life, was in the right place at the right time. I needed one tire -17.5 X 25’s- so I was calling around and just happened to catch a man who had just won (sealed bids) 8 new (had been mounted but still had the molding flash not worn off) tires that had came off some military equipment I think they went to radials. I asked him what he had to have for 1 and he told me if I bought 4 he could let me have them for $200.00 each, cash money. I didn’t need that good a tires but for that price I couldn’t turn it down and they were 16 plys and my old ones were only 12‘s. Shoot I paid $80.00 more per tire for the 4 rear dually tires on my F-Super Duty I bought last fall. Now I am kind of like the old sayings.” All dressed up and no place to go.” Until I can figure out why my front brakes are slightly dragging. They are dragging enough to not make it worthwhile to use it until I get it remedied, I don‘t want to cause more problems. I don’t have any manuals so I am having a hard time locating the problem. Any ideas?
Everyone have a great day and never loose that sense of humor!
Invent_4U
 
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jdeere412

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Hello eveyone,
i'm the proud new owner of a Hough H 60 D, belive it or not but all 3 speed work, but ofcourse i do need some parts, especially a bucket, if you have some parts or a complete machine that you want to get rid of, please let me know
thanks Ryan
 

lenray

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Helloo Ryan I installed a 10 ft. snow blade on my Hough--I may not ever use the bucket--not sure. Have been looking for a book for the machine. There are H60B----H60E MAYBE H60C ,BUT I never see a booklet for the H60 D----Do you thinnk maybe the D just stands for Diesel????????????
Inside in you cab on the right hand side near the heater is there a panel with a Push-Pull knob and a gauge etc???????????

Good to hear from you---What year is your machine???
len in michigan
 

jdeere412

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Hey,
ya if you dont want or need that bucket let me know, someone fabed a bucket to fit..... lets just say they didn't do a good job, and i figure rather than trying to fix the cobble job it be easyier to find the right bucket, dont buy a book yet, i ran into the same problem you have and i just bought one off of yesterdays tractors, i crossed my fingers and went with my serial #,
MANUAL HO H-60 4WD Dsl Front End Loader (29AC-1003 & Up) - Operators Manual (Part No: HO-O-H-60), my serials H60-D 29AC1085, let me get my book and see if its correct, no sence both of us blowing $40.00, as far as the the pannel and push pull i'm not sure, i just got it home sunday and dropped it off at my dads since my welder died but will get back over there this weekend and will check it out.

Thanks for the response and i'll be talking with ya soon
 

jdeere412

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yup straight 6 cummins.......#s on my tag....... JF-6-C1.......Engine 309137.......SBM# 45427, sounds like we have the same loader......
talk to ya later
 

lenray

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Ryan when you get into your cab. Look for a push pull lever on the right hand side of the cab--there will be a gage there also and some other stuff. I think this was an aid for cold starts. You might not have this---take a look thanks.
 

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The Little Push Pull Button?

Ryan when you get into your cab. Look for a push pull lever on the right hand side of the cab--there will be a gage there also and some other stuff. I think this was an aid for cold starts. You might not have this---take a look thanks.

Well lenray, I just happened to be notified of interactions on this thread so I took a look. I am not an expert on the H-60's as I just bought my first one this spring, but I believe you are talking about the "Engine Primer" if I am looking at this the same. As you all probably know that it is a bad thing to run out of deseil engine like this. The man I bought it from I talked too a few months later and he told me he could never find it. He ran out of fuel and had to pour deseil fuel into certain lines to prime the engine pump. I hope that helps.

I have the Cummins JF 6 engine as well but I have found they used 2 different sizes, unless you talk to the man I did at Cummins and they never put a J engine in a Hough H-60, but we know better. Where did you find the engine numbers at and the machine S/N at because I can't find either which everything you need comes off from.

Anyone have a MASTER Cylinder for my brake cluster as just as I get one think restored or upgraded something else goes, But it looks goo and has like new tires Ha-Ha. I am seriously not laughing. Anyway if you have one or can find someone that does (mine has 4 bolts) please drop me a PM. I also found a chardt and found that the correct batteries for an H-60 with our engine is 2-batteries from 850-1000 CCA each. I haven't went through a Wisconsin winter yet but 1 battery worked fine with a shot of either until the engine was hot and then it didn't have enough to start it up if you killed it while working it hard.

Last but not least, what brand and what number Alternator does yours have and the same with your voltage regulator. I would appreciate it
Thanks,
Invent_4U
 

jdeere412

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hey everyone,
i need someone who knows there stuff, i need a bucket for sure, but my loader frame is slightly tweeked from someone cobbleing a bucket on the front, so i ask i have a Hough H60-D are there other hough models that have the same loader or bucket to help expand my search for parts? also anyone know how much that should pick up?
thanks
 

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hey everyone,
i need someone who knows there stuff, i need a bucket for sure, but my loader frame is slightly tweeked from someone cobbleing a bucket on the front, so i ask i have a Hough H60-D are there other hough models that have the same loader or bucket to help expand my search for parts? also anyone know how much that should pick up?
thanks

jdeere412,

I see you have not got an answer so I would suggest calling this outfit. We have used them over the years where I would and they seem to treat us well.
Just a note owners name and mine maybe the same but no relation that I know of.

H&R Construction Parts & Equipment, Inc.
20 Milburn Street
Buffalo, New York, 14212
USA Phone: (716)891-4311
or (800)333-0650
Fax: (716)891-4346

Steve Hansen - Owner

Email: info@hrparts.com
Web: http://www.hrparts.com
 
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