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Smaller Trailer, Or A Bigger Truck

Danny Steel

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I Tow this 10 ton trailer with this 3/4 ton pick up, And I'm a bit over weight:eek:
I don't know If I should build a 7 ton float or look for a used one.......Or should I keep this trailer and look for a bigger truck??? What would you suggest?
 

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heavylift

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make it a 4 axle trailer, you can weld right. :)
they used to make a 2 wheel dolly that went between the truck and trailer to carry the weight
 

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Do you have a dumptruck? I run a simular setup and pull mine with a ford f-800. Works much better than a pickup. I'm always cartin dirt or gravel somewhere
 

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make it a 4 axle trailer, you can weld right. :)
they used to make a 2 wheel dolly that went between the truck and trailer to carry the weight

I was thinking of a duel axle trailer......I dont need more axles LOL

Do you have a dumptruck? I run a simular setup and pull mine with a ford f-800. Works much better than a pickup. I'm always cartin dirt or gravel somewhere

Years ago I was going to get a dump truck.... took the coarse and got my air brakes.....then i found out they wanted tons for Insurance, because I never had experience

ps: I'm not sure but I may be able to squeeze the skid steer on that trailer with the mini....now that would be a load:eek:
 
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Shop around on your insurance, check different companies and different vehicles. My dump costs my $950 yearly for liability and comp thru erie. They know its a dump, not a "flatbed". I think i have a 50mile radius on it, and if I wanna go outside that all i have to do is tell them. You may find that an older dump is alot cheaper than a new one to insure, also unless you let your cdl slip, you will show as having it for awile know and might give you a break there.
 

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Get a tandem axle with dual wheels., if possible get a heavy duty dump truck to pull it. You will never be sorry.
 

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Get a tandem axle with dual wheels., if possible get a heavy duty dump truck to pull it. You will never be sorry.

Why Do I nee Duals for this 3 ton mini?.........I would love a Dump truck, even a 2 tonner
 

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Shop around on your insurance, check different companies and different vehicles. My dump costs my $950 yearly for liability and comp thru erie. They know its a dump, not a "flatbed". I think i have a 50mile radius on it, and if I wanna go outside that all i have to do is tell them. You may find that an older dump is alot cheaper than a new one to insure, also unless you let your cdl slip, you will show as having it for awile know and might give you a break there.

Stump....Thanks for that.......
 

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If I understood you correctly that you would like to load the skidloader also, the dual wheel trailer and dump truck is by far the best option. I like dual wheels even without the added skidloader for the stability and saftey of heavy duty trailer. Just my opinon after having many trailers and pulling rigs of all kinds.
 

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If I understood you correctly that you would like to load the skidloader also, the dual wheel trailer and dump truck is by far the best option. I like dual wheels even without the added skidloader for the stability and saftey of heavy duty trailer. Just my opinon after having many trailers and pulling rigs of all kinds.



Ahhhh Ok.....I was thinking If I did have a bigger truck the skid steer and the mini could go on the tri axle that I have......I understand what you ment now......Thanks

I think Im looking at building a 16' deck 7 ton dual axle trailer....most of my jobs are at homes right now, and I like to get the truck and trailer up the driveway easy.....And that tri axle that I have now Is 26', Also the mini Is standing right up on Its front toes loading It
 

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Yair...Danny fror years I have been trying to understand why you fellers in the 'States use pickups. As stumpjumper mentions up thread I too reckon it is more practical to use a tipper or "dump truck" as you blokes call them.

A typical one man excavation business here will run (say) a six yard tipper and carry the mini-ex and alloy ramps in the body and a low deck trailer behind with the skid and all attachments...along with his site box, welder and whatall.

A mate of mine also carries a little street legal Honda trail bike so that on a secure site he can save a bit of fuel by not driving the whole rig home at night.

He reckons that most of his jobs involve shifting dirt around or to and from a site...for that he needs the tip truck and he just can't see how a pickup could ever fit into the mix.

As I understand it he only works hourly rate and books out for which machine he is running and the other stuff just sits.

Cheers.
 

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I have always used a pickup for everything. Sometimes a bigger pickup, other times, a small pickup works just as well. I have found that I only need a trailer as big as my equipment I am hauling. I find it unnecessary to haul extra trailer around. Shop around for sturdy trailers, sometimes they will last longer than a truck will! Check out www.trailersplus.com - as I have seen some quality trailers on their site.

Good luck! Whatever you do will be just fine!
 

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Would you like to expound on why you're so enamoured of "trailers plus"? (Since you've posted a link to them in 4 out of 5 posts...) :cool2
 

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Back to the OP, that setup can be done without being overweight. DOT pays no respect to what your MFG says for 'towing' Drive onto some scales and see what your axle weights are, if they're in the green then you're good. I tow a full CK 580 behind a F250, and its right up close to the axle weights. Now, my class D dl says up to 26,000 and the CDL spec say its good as long as the total GVW is under 26000, The trailer is 19,000 and the truck is 6800 gvw. But, if I put the trailer on the dually, then the combined goes up to 30,000 with a trailer over 10000 so could qualify for a class A combination.

The combo pictured with triple axle brakes should be fine down the road.
 

E Smith

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Would you like to expound on why you're so enamoured of "trailers plus"? (Since you've posted a link to them in 4 out of 5 posts...) :cool2

Sorry about that! I am just easily excited when I find something I like. I feel as though others might be appreciative of the information!
 

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I personally would go to a dual axle comercial truck. Such as a f550 contracters dump or flatbed.
 

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I personally would go to a dual axle comercial truck. Such as a f550 contracters dump or flatbed.

I suppose another bit that's missing is how far is the haul? Ten minute drive? hours? and how often.
 

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Back to the OP, that setup can be done without being overweight. DOT pays no respect to what your MFG says for 'towing' Drive onto some scales and see what your axle weights are, if they're in the green then you're good. I tow a full CK 580 behind a F250, and its right up close to the axle weights. Now, my class D dl says up to 26,000 and the CDL spec say its good as long as the total GVW is under 26000, The trailer is 19,000 and the truck is 6800 gvw. But, if I put the trailer on the dually, then the combined goes up to 30,000 with a trailer over 10000 so could qualify for a class A combination.

The combo pictured with triple axle brakes should be fine down the road.

if i recall in mass it doesnt matter what the total GVW is, if the trailer is over 10,000 GVW you need a class A no matter what as far as i understand.
 
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