Warning to those looking to purchase foreign made equipment off the assembly line

mitch504 · Jan 30, 2011

I have a theory:
I believe that millat and Itmco are victims here, because it is obvious that they didnot build these machines.

1. According to their websites, neither one makes dozers or excavators. If they made them, they would advertise them.

2. It would be nearly impossible to make these machines on an assembly line, because to make machines w/o interchangeable parts requires hand fitting. Every time you install one part you must measure and make the next fit.

Thus I believe that these machines were FABRICATED by some individual who just claims they were made by these companies.

motrack · Jan 30, 2011

If you follow the link I provided you see that ITMCo does indeed make their own machines and it even has pictures of the factory.

mitch504 · Jan 30, 2011

motrack said:
If you follow the link I provided you see that ITMCo does indeed make their own machines and it even has pictures of the factory.

Think you miss read, Motrack. I said they probably didn't make THESE machines, i.e. the ones made with superglue, no interchangeable parts and sparkplugs; not that they don't make machines.

I had also immediately googled these companies as soon as I saw they were being credited with these failures.

MrMechanic · Jan 30, 2011

digger242j said:
To clarify:

Given that Mr Mechanic says he was working with the contractor who experienced these problems, I don't see any problems with naming names here. After all, isn't that what happens every time somebody asks advice for a specific problem on a specific model of machine?

The intent of the rule is to discourage unsubstantiated allegations based simply on brand preference. If you've seen the problems with your own eyes, it's to everyone's benefit to share that information here. That's why we exist...

On edit: And everyone gets to judge for himself whether the testimony presented is credible.

Thank you very much for clarifying.

MrMechanic · Jan 30, 2011

I'm not an actual Mechanic, just an aspiring one. Still trying to learn the ropes.

Regarding the equipment, we got them online from what my bosses say were "Factory Direct". Hense the even lower prices than they would have been otherwise.

The Equipment ad the brand/logos on them, and models in clear print engraved on them.

But these are the issues we had.

Auctioneerhere · Jan 30, 2011

Post a picture...Then you haven't said anything....

DirtHauler · Jan 30, 2011

Auctioneerhere said:
Post a picture...Then you haven't said anything....

Well said. One detailed set of photos speaks louder than 10 threads.

Thank you for the thread. If nothing else, it has enlighted me to some more things to look at when considering a machine. I had no idea that machines were being licensed out like that to the middle east.

MrMechanic · Jan 30, 2011

DirtHauler said:
Well said. One detailed set of photos speaks louder than 10 threads.

Thank you for the thread. If nothing else, it has enlighted me to some more things to look at when considering a machine. I had no idea that machines were being licensed out like that to the middle east.

Unfortunate that's impossible now.

Yesterday they got rid of the scrap metal we made the machines out of

motrack · Jan 30, 2011

Your telling us now that your boss scraped 3 dozers and 2 excavators in less than 7 days? You first posting about this was on the 23rd and today is the 30th.

And you dismantled the machines to sort the iron....... a total load of bull in this thread.

2stickbill · Jan 30, 2011

motrack said:
Your telling us now that your boss scraped 3 dozers and 2 excavators in less than 7 days? You first posting about this was on the 23rd and today is the 30th.

And you dismantled the machines to sort the iron....... a total load of bull in this thread.

:iagree

mitch504 · Jan 30, 2011

MrMechanic said:
Unfortunate that's impossible now.

Yesterday they got rid of the scrap metal we made the machines out of

Read the last line, is it a near freudian slip?

LDK · Jan 31, 2011

motrack said:
Your telling us now that your boss scraped 3 dozers and 2 excavators in less than 7 days? You first posting about this was on the 23rd and today is the 30th.

And you dismantled the machines to sort the iron....... a total load of bull in this thread.

Why do people do it, what kick do they get out of it. Its happened in other threads also, is it just a case of to much time and not enough to do? Beats me.

mitch504 · Jan 31, 2011

LDK said:
Why do people do it, what kick do they get out of it. Its happened in other threads also, is it just a case of to much time and not enough to do? Beats me.

motrack said:
Your telling us now that your boss scraped 3 dozers and 2 excavators in less than 7 days? You first posting about this was on the 23rd and today is the 30th.

And you dismantled the machines to sort the iron....... a total load of bull in this thread.

Uh,Oh; looks like one of my favorite threads may be winding down, too many people are catching on.

stinkycat · Jan 31, 2011

Read his Bio, He wants to be a heavy equipment mechanic someday. Think he may be on younger side?

cps · Jan 31, 2011

motrack said:
Your telling us now that your boss scraped 3 dozers and 2 excavators in less than 7 days? You first posting about this was on the 23rd and today is the 30th.

And you dismantled the machines to sort the iron....... a total load of bull in this thread.

I was starting to think this as soon as he said they decided to scrap them

This guy was full of crap from the start

ointhead

2stickbill · Jan 31, 2011

cps said:
I was starting to think this as soon as he said they decided to scrap them This guy was full of crap from the startointhead

Thought so to.All my years being around heavy equipment even foreign made I have never heard of these problems.Problems yes but they all have them.
I still want to see the spark plugs in the dozer.Probably Champions.

motrack · Jan 31, 2011

Heres a question for you........ with all the political BS going on between the US and Iran could you even buy a Iranian built excavator and have it shipped here? I know they are useing some Cat engines but is Cat dealing drectly with them or another company that is building Cat engines under a licnese agreement.

Are you allowed to do business with a Iranian company?

alco · Feb 1, 2011

motrack said:
Are you allowed to do business with a Iranian company?

I think it's still allowed in the land of make believe.....I think.

Greg · Feb 1, 2011

No< you can't do business with iran!!!

2stickbill · Feb 1, 2011

Greg said:
No< you can't do business with iran!!!

Only the Government can.

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