nmmountainman
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I wanna see more pics. before the pond, during, after, etc......
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D3 or D4 for Digging Lake
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cgfreeland
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I'm in Brownwood, tx.
How deep do you make you keyways' deas? I am gonna have very little "dam" around the top of the tank as I want the banks of the dam to only rise up a foot or two above ground level for cosmetic reaons. So even if i'm not builind a very high dam, I still need to keyway in around the tank perimiter way down past the topsoil?
How deep do you make you keyways' deas? I am gonna have very little "dam" around the top of the tank as I want the banks of the dam to only rise up a foot or two above ground level for cosmetic reaons. So even if i'm not builind a very high dam, I still need to keyway in around the tank perimiter way down past the topsoil?
cgfreeland
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ointheadAlso, if there are any books or online tutorials on this digging tanks, ponds, or lakes subject, please let me know. I have been unable to find anything written about the subject.Deas Plant
Senior Member
Keyways or simply claying up.
Hi, CGFreeland.
If you are only planning on banks 1 foot high, would it be a rude question to ask where you plan on disposing of all the material from the 10 foot deep hole?
If you are only going up 1 foot with your bank, I'd simply over-excavate outside where you plan on having the foot of your bank/wall when you remove the topsoil and replace the over-excavation with good sealing clay when you have some.
You can find a bit more about dam sinking/tank construction in this thread:
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=4340
Hope this helps.
Hi, CGFreeland.
If you are only planning on banks 1 foot high, would it be a rude question to ask where you plan on disposing of all the material from the 10 foot deep hole?
If you are only going up 1 foot with your bank, I'd simply over-excavate outside where you plan on having the foot of your bank/wall when you remove the topsoil and replace the over-excavation with good sealing clay when you have some.
You can find a bit more about dam sinking/tank construction in this thread:
https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=4340
Hope this helps.
Cgfreeland,
Check out pondboss.com
cgfreeland
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no deas not at all. I plan on moveing about 50 yards over to help fill in a low area on my land and will need a lot of fill dirt over there anyway. As it sits right now, I am thinking of buying an older d6 and a 3 yard scraper for my john deere 4020 tractor. That way One of us could be pushing out the tank with the dozer and the other could be grabbing the dirt and be moving it over to where it needs to be to fill in.
Construct'O
Senior Member
Forget the books,better idea!!!!!!!!! maybe you should go watch the guys that have to do it for a living and see how it is done and then you might find out why they get as much as they do!!!!!!
You need to be sure what your getting into before you spend that hard earned cash and find out if only i would have????????
At least pick out a contractor to watch that you would at least hire if you could loosen up with some of that old molty cash
With the last two options as of machines at least you might have at least one machine working while the other one is setting.:beatsme
Good luck an Carry on ! :usa
You need to be sure what your getting into before you spend that hard earned cash and find out if only i would have
????????At least pick out a contractor to watch that you would at least hire if you could loosen up with some of that old molty cash
With the last two options as of machines at least you might have at least one machine working while the other one is setting.:beatsme
Good luck an Carry on ! :usa
Deas Plant
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Choices.
Hi, CGFreeland.
That sounds like a reasonable compromise to me. If you are not putting the excavated material into the wall, that immediately means longer push/haul distances - or the old Indian vanishing trick. LOL.
The beauty of scrapers/pans is that what you get in the bowl usually gets to the dump site - assuming no roll-overs - with little if any spillage. They spread that material and at least partially compact it as they go. They can maintain their own haul roads, trim some batters, trim floors and - use your imagination.
It would be good to have a scraper with a rear push block so that the dozer can help out if needed. Some pull scrapers will accept mounting a push block on them and some won't. Just a thought.
Happy hunting.
Hi, CGFreeland.
That sounds like a reasonable compromise to me. If you are not putting the excavated material into the wall, that immediately means longer push/haul distances - or the old Indian vanishing trick. LOL.
The beauty of scrapers/pans is that what you get in the bowl usually gets to the dump site - assuming no roll-overs - with little if any spillage. They spread that material and at least partially compact it as they go. They can maintain their own haul roads, trim some batters, trim floors and - use your imagination.
It would be good to have a scraper with a rear push block so that the dozer can help out if needed. Some pull scrapers will accept mounting a push block on them and some won't. Just a thought.
Happy hunting.
stumpjumper83
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With the housing market flat on its face you might be able to get a good deal renting a big dozer from a developer at a great rate. Here in Pa I know where you could get some serious d7h/k, d8r/t, or a 9L. If the owners have them setting, they might give you a good deal on renting them. That would be what I would try.
ironmen327G
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She'll get the job done but you will have to take your time. Rome wasn't built in a day!
cgfreeland
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Hey Guys, thought I'd give you all a late update. I wound up buying a d7e dozer for 28,500. Bout 90% undercarraige and then a blot came loose in the engine that was holding one of the oiler tubes for all the gears. It stripped teeth off every gear even the crankshaft. I drove to canada and bought a replacement engine and still have not put it in yet. I also bought a very large tured and tuned up John deere 5020 tracker with a hydraulic 9 yard scraper and a push bar. I've been playing with it and getting all the quirks out of it. It seems to work pretty well and last week finally started digging my small lake with the scraper. I hope to get the engine swapped out on my dozer in the next couple of months and I'll keep you guys updated.
cgfreeland
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I forgot to mention I have added a JD 310A Backhoe/loader and and ford 8n to my equipment collection.
SO Cat D7E Dozer---changing engines
JD4020---10 ft shredder, 8 ft box balde with rippiers
JD5020----9 yeard scraper
JD310A
Ford 8N---small shredder
SO Cat D7E Dozer---changing engines
JD4020---10 ft shredder, 8 ft box balde with rippiers
JD5020----9 yeard scraper
JD310A
Ford 8N---small shredder
So you went from THIS
"The only d6 i can afford would be a d6 9u which was later replaced by the d5 i think. They have only an 8 foot blade. Is this machine too small to do my project with? "
To this musta won the lottery.....$$ do cure issues for sure
"The only d6 i can afford would be a d6 9u which was later replaced by the d5 i think. They have only an 8 foot blade. Is this machine too small to do my project with? "
To this
musta won the lottery.....$$ do cure issues for sure
Hokiesmokes
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I see you made some choices. You could have hired the pond dug for less than that d7, but I guess you can sell the machine when you get done. I engineered and inspected on a project where the landowner dug the pond with a d4, a small case dozer, and an excavator. He had all his friends out there helping him and it took him from september to december when the weather shut him down and then several more months the following year. Not ideal for dam building. He finally got some real operators out there to help and dug it with the hoe and dump trucks. Those little dozers have their place, a large pond excavation probably isn't it. They level the dam slopes nice though when you're done. Most pull pans around here are behind articulated tractors or cat challengers.
Transitchest
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Digging a Pond
I purchased a 05 Case 650 K LT in what manner do I start to dig a small half acre pond? Also I have a JD Skip Loader for smothing things out.
DR
I purchased a 05 Case 650 K LT in what manner do I start to dig a small half acre pond? Also I have a JD Skip Loader for smothing things out.
DR
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Gday all, i have a job lined up for closing in a dam, wall height is probs about 15 ft high, its cut into a slope, so there is only one real wall. Now i have been wondering what the best machine would be to break it up, i was considering using a 4WD articulated tractor with a dozer blade on the front and towing a meter deep ripper behind. Below the dam is a row of precious trees i cannot touch... The plan i have is to run along the top of the wall, and make cuts along the wall, pushing the clay to a stock pile. Once the dam wall is gone will wait until the floor has dried and then will commence the filling. Is this a good method? Can anyone suggest maybe a better setup? and when finishing off does the reclaimed area need to be compacted to certain specifications?
cheers
alex
cheers
alex
Will Musser
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Hey CGFreeland,
You need to call Jackie Bean. (580)795-7719. He can take care of you on the D7E parts. If he doesn't have one, he will let you know where to find what you need. Great guy to deal with on these older tractors. Btw, those big 4 cylinders had a timed oilpump if I remember correctly. That gets out of time and it will shake you to death!
You need to call Jackie Bean. (580)795-7719. He can take care of you on the D7E parts. If he doesn't have one, he will let you know where to find what you need. Great guy to deal with on these older tractors. Btw, those big 4 cylinders had a timed oilpump if I remember correctly. That gets out of time and it will shake you to death!