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INDREM

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she looks only good for being melted down for scrap from the photos what you going to do with it if you don't mind me asking

The Rollouts, Transmission, and Cylinders will be rebuilt. They are all examined carefully to determine hardness of parts, fatigue and so on. Then they will get new bearings, seals, dyno etc. The bucket and boom are also in good condition so they will be sold as good used. Any good sheet metal will be sandblasted, painted, and sold. Beats paying at the dealer. Most of the machine as you said will be scrapped.
 

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yes thats the machine. SR# FV1008 I also have the oerators Manual and service records if needed.

edit: Good luck getting the bucket pins out. Each time they were removed here they had to be cut out.
 
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I won't need them, I appreciate it though. Already found that out when our 10 ton jack didn't even move them. I figured it would be easy with a new bucket. We're going to use a bigger jack when we have the time to finish dismantling.
 

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I hope your able to get them out without distroying the pins but it never happened the 3 times they were taken out here.
 

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Billy P
This is a little off the subject but is your power plant a fluidized bed boiler because the picture of your stack are sure clear.
 

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Kinda off subject, But my local mill had a nearly near volvo loader (atleast a 220 size or up) will check on that. It burnt just like this one did if not worse a month or so ago. Hated to see it burn. Good looking machine. Now there is a new 9**H cat there.
 

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Sorry to hear about your machine. Loosing ours was a blessing because we replaced it with a 988H. As of now we have 4200 hours on it and very few problems.
 

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Yikes! This is truly appalling to get so many major issues at so few hours, and then to burn itself down after all these issues... good riddance, but I feel very sorry for your unfortunate series of losses. I would never have thought that Volvo's [recent] loaders would have so many issues. Makes me glad to have bought a CAT rather than a Volvo loader.
I find it difficult absorb all this bad luck with Volvo Loaders I have had a lot to do with Demonstrating Volvos ,there have been odd one that has not performed as good as could be expected, however when you take into account the Operators treatment of those particular machines one can understand that they have been abused, there is use and Abuse, There is acompany who have been only Cat machines for over 60years have they have disposed of all there cat loaders. Put in all Volvos, they now have some fairly high hours on Volvos they speak very highly of Vs the fuel saving alone is a Major advantage the operators are finding they do not get as fatigued sometimes you get areal dog and sounds as tho this machine is one of them
 

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I have worked on most all construction, logging and medium sized mining machinery for somewhere around 35 years. The phrase that really aggravates me from any manufacturer or dealer after "I never seen that happen before" is the "use it and don't abuse it" phrase.

Having been on the end user side I always say you design machines for the worst operators, not the best. Having worked for more than my share of dealers, you have to expect the worst and work with your customers to make those machines last as long as possible.

Having followed this thread from its previous beginning I can only say the writers posted items they actually had problems with and most had photos to back up their stories. I hadn't detected anything but frustration in the bulk of the threads. I would suggest that you choose your words carefully or you might do more to aggravate those who read these posts. I think everyone here would agree that there are hard luck products from all manufacturers.

Most of us don't have the choice of what we are working on and really like the hear of any and all problems that others have had to work through, no matter who the manufacturer is. Whether you bust a boom, break an engine or transmission, can't keep tracks on a MTL or have continued problems of all sorts on one or more models of any manufacturer's machine, I for one would like to hear about it.
 

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Damn John, you could have been a great dad for me! You have an incredible amount of experience with heavy machinery, and you also have a good morality to go with it. It's a pleasure to read what you post, I hope there are many more things I can learn from you.

Thanks,
Logan
 

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I have worked on most all construction, logging and medium sized mining machinery for somewhere around 35 years. The phrase that really aggravates me from any manufacturer or dealer after "I never seen that happen before" is the "use it and don't abuse it" phrase.

Having been on the end user side I always say you design machines for the worst operators, not the best. Having worked for more than my share of dealers, you have to expect the worst and work with your customers to make those machines last as long as possible.

Having followed this thread from its previous beginning I can only say the writers posted items they actually had problems with and most had photos to back up their stories. I hadn't detected anything but frustration in the bulk of the threads. I would suggest that you choose your words carefully or you might do more to aggravate those who read these posts. I think everyone here would agree that there are hard luck products from all manufacturers.

Most of us don't have the choice of what we are working on and really like the hear of any and all problems that others have had to work through, no matter who the manufacturer is. Whether you bust a boom, break an engine or transmission, can't keep tracks on a MTL or have continued problems of all sorts on one or more models of any manufacturer's machine, I for one would like to hear about it.
JOhn C with all due respect There IS a phrase called" Use and Abuse" I have had this happen to my own earthmoving Equipment . Put a another operator on and your problem is solved personally have been in earthmoving and costruction for over 56 years (NOW co in 3rd generation of family) have time and time again perfectly acceptable machines are given a bad name by people who abuse them. i dont say that this is the problem with the volvo L350 concerned with this post. it does make one aware that there could be a number of causes,maybe was crook casting , John you say you have been around machines for 35 years if you havent seen machine syou dont like the terms used well possibly you have not been as far as some of the contributors of these posts however having said that YES the terms used by many dealers is used very loosely and oft times unbeleivable yoiu do looose confidence in them cheers
 
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I here what your saying but the operator that fell asleep and dug the bucket was on the 330 loader not the new one. The old bucket was built stronger with more steal.

The old 330 was sold to a rock quarry and they hate it, same problems we had with the leaks and transmission!

If you look closely the cracks show progressive fatigue. This loader has the power to lift the back end and mash the front tires into the ground when loading (and that is taking it easy). The bucket carries 12 to 14 tons every trip and it moves 5000K tons per day average. When we get it fixed I will get some more pixs showing how much it carries when heaped.
coal burner what is the material you carry in this bucket and how much does it weigh per bucket ful
 

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I can say a hose burst and sprayed on a heat source and it burnt to the ground in 15 minutes.
coalburner, it is stagering how quickly the confounded things burn we put fire equipment on all machines i guess it will help if we have misfortune to have one burn
 

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I was only counting my time specifically in this industry. I have a few years at sea to go with it and my family has also been in construction for three generations.

My comment on the use and abuse phrase is because I have been on both sides of the sale of equipment and have been accused of it specifically by dealers when I was running the shops at a couple of small coal mines. No one should use it unless they can prove it is my thought process. It most cases it is just a way to blame bad design on the customer and in my case in particular I was able to prove otherwise as the manufacturer came in and bought back the machines with the lousy designs.

I can also say that coal mining is a tough business and any machine sold into it should be designed for those "lousy conditions." Bad operators are a fact of life and any owner that allows them to exist in their company deserves what they get.

I'm sure you are not accusing the owner of the subject machines in this thread of abusing them, are you?
 

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I was only counting my time specifically in this industry. I have a few years at sea to go with it and my family has also been in construction for three generations.

My comment on the use and abuse phrase is because I have been on both sides of the sale of equipment and have been accused of it specifically by dealers when I was running the shops at a couple of small coal mines. No one should use it unless they can prove it is my thought process. It most cases it is just a way to blame bad design on the customer and in my case in particular I was able to prove otherwise as the manufacturer came in and bought back the machines with the lousy designs.

I can also say that coal mining is a tough business and any machine sold into it should be designed for those "lousy conditions." Bad operators are a fact of life and any owner that allows them to exist in their company deserves what they get.

I'm sure you are not accusing the owner of the subject machines in this thread of abusing them, are you?
John C I am certainly not accusing the contractor of abusing his machine all i am saying Is that abuse does happen. as far as coal mines are concerned we Had loaders load and digging out magnesite and had heavy duty buckets on machines and had no problem with Buckets or broken linkages One was A Fa 945and the Other VolvoL350 the weight of material is usually a Factor I have inspected Cat DW21 working New Zealands Benmore Dam They were absolutely Cracked welded up crack again Why Because of the weight of Material they were Carrying Yet They were only carrying a Half load but because of weight thedy were grosslyt over loaded
 

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Its been awhile since I've read anything worth comenting on. "Build a machine for the worst operator"? I think the morons that contractors are putting behind the controls in these machines should be a little better trained, and not by an ignorant boss who knows nothing but how to tie a neck tie and push a pencil but by someone who is actualy proficient, someone who understands what the machine was designed to do. Someone that can make a machine pay for itself and not distroy it. I do not believe in building a machine for a fool but for a operator.
 
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