• Thank you for visiting HeavyEquipmentForums.com! Our objective is to provide industry professionals a place to gather to exchange questions, answers and ideas. We welcome you to register using the "Register" icon at the top of the page. We'd appreciate any help you can offer in spreading the word of our new site. The more members that join, the bigger resource for all to enjoy. Thank you!

Swinger or willmar wrangler wheel loaders

pistons

Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2010
Messages
18
Location
ohio
We have an old loader with Dana 60 diff., spider gears stripped twice in 30 years service. not bad I would say. We currently have a Willmar and really like it. I am sure we will invest far more money in the hydraulic system than the old one in 30 years. At least with the swinger you only have one hyd. motor. As with any new machine, dealer and service can be the deal maker.
 

adam21584

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
54
Location
minnesota
Personally I like swingers. I have been around the 2000 and 240. I like them both, With a good operator they are fast and productive. They are some what high maintenance though. Allot of power for a little machine. I prefer the 2000 because of the 2 speed transfer case.
 

trainmax

New Member
Joined
May 10, 2010
Messages
4
Location
Louisiana
We have an old loader with Dana 60 diff., spider gears stripped twice in 30 years service. not bad I would say. We currently have a Willmar and really like it. I am sure we will invest far more money in the hydraulic system than the old one in 30 years. At least with the swinger you only have one hyd. motor. As with any new machine, dealer and service can be the deal maker.

Where did you get the new gears from? How much did it cost to fix it?

I am looking at buying one and the rear wheels do not work. I am thinking it may be the same thing. It's a 1979 model.
 

trainmax

New Member
Joined
May 10, 2010
Messages
4
Location
Louisiana
Where did you get the new gears from? How much did it cost to fix it?

I am looking at buying one and the rear wheels do not work. I am thinking it may be the same thing. It's a 1979 model.
 

pistons

Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2010
Messages
18
Location
ohio
We were lucky in that a local repair shop happened to have a whole rear end out of the same loader and we just swapped it out. I would think a good drive-line shop should be able to help you out. I will check and see if I can get some part numbers from the local guy. The last time the gears stripped, if busted the whole inner gear carrier. Another thought. Some one should be able to cut down and make narrower a truck rear end.
 

trainmax

New Member
Joined
May 10, 2010
Messages
4
Location
Louisiana
Rear axle

I was not so lucky the read axle is sheared in half trying to find a new one will let you know how it turns out.


We were lucky in that a local repair shop happened to have a whole rear end out of the same loader and we just swapped it out. I would think a good drive-line shop should be able to help you out. I will check and see if I can get some part numbers from the local guy. The last time the gears stripped, if busted the whole inner gear carrier. Another thought. Some one should be able to cut down and make narrower a truck rear end.
 

trainmax

New Member
Joined
May 10, 2010
Messages
4
Location
Louisiana
Axle

What are you going to use it for?

I got it for our Railroad museum to help work on the tracks.
Will be moving dirt and RR ballast I am also making a set of forks for lifting Railroad ties and stuff.

I will not be working it every day and I will be the one to run it.

Is there a truck rear end I can buy and cut down to fit?
I have every thing here to weld it together.

Just got the price for a new axle $492.44 plus shipping.
 

hammerdwn20

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2008
Messages
230
Location
pa
Occupation
pipeline
we have a swinger at work and it is a powerful machine for its size. It has all 4 tires filled solid and extra counterweight on the back. It will still lift the rear tires. Dumps over the top of our single axle better than our bobcat. We love it!
 

ogs1022

New Member
Joined
Nov 3, 2008
Messages
2
Location
Wisconsin
Occupation
Technical Trainer for Construction OEM
I have had both but recently did a demo with the new Wacker Neuson WL-30 and beats them both hands down. Their parts availability and dealer network is huge.
 

Sparkie

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 3, 2011
Messages
50
Location
Cyrus MN
We've got wranglers at work. One for general lifting of whatever and snow removal. And the other spends most of its time loading fertilizer. Our general use one is a 1992 with 5000 hours on it. I'd trust it over the newer 4550 anyday, its just a dinosaur
 

pitboss

New Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2013
Messages
1
Location
Wisconsin
They are both good machines but there is a new machine made by Wacker Neuson that I am hearing a lot of good things about.
 

lumberjack

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 24, 2011
Messages
1,044
Location
Columbus, MS
If you're looking new, I would suggest Gehl, which was built in conjunction with/ Wacker Neuson although it's made in South Dokota. I have the AL540, and my climber has the AL140. I have oodles of video of them.

The 140 is around $26-27k, $340 is around $34k, the AL540 is around $41k. All these are rough ballparks. The 140 and 540 are fairly accurate, the 340 is approximate. Currently the dealer portal is down for maintenance.
 

icestationzebra

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2009
Messages
366
Location
WI
If you're looking new, I would suggest Gehl, which was built in conjunction with/ Wacker Neuson although it's made in South Dokota. I have the AL540, and my climber has the AL140. I have oodles of video of them.

I can tell you in no uncertain terms that Wacker Neuson was never involved in the design of the Gehl loaders. ISZ
 

lumberjack

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 24, 2011
Messages
1,044
Location
Columbus, MS
"...n conjunction with/*based their design on* Waker Nueson..."

Before Gehl/Mustang set up the current deal with Yanmar, their excavators were private label Wacker Neusons. The WL30 and the AL540 are cousins, if not siblings. However, I am not entirely certain of the arrangement regarding the wheel loaders; I would be happy to email the AL product manager for further details.
 

icestationzebra

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2009
Messages
366
Location
WI
You are correct that Gehl was selling rebranded Wacker Neuson products. That effectively ended with the introduction of the AL loaders, otherwise why would they now hook up with Yanmar for excavators? And no they are not cousins or brothers. Lets just say one is a reflection of the other.

It is very difficult to make money selling rebranded equipment, much less ones that you have to ship all the way from Austria.

ISZ
 
Top