Kobelco ED190 Bladerunner

MVFD · May 23, 2006

I was wondering if anyone knows anything about Kobelco's new ED190 Bladerunner? anyone own one? how are they?

My current employer is looking to buy one, and the company Im going to be switiching to for new employment is also thinking of buying one.

Just looking for some input on the machine.
It looks to be like a very Versitile excavator being a 2 in 1 machine.
Thanks in advance

NHDealer · Dec 2, 2006

If you still are looking for information let me know.

Scott_527 · Dec 6, 2006

I'd love to get my hands on a bladerunner. The ED150 or 190, wouldn't matter to me :bouncegri . The ED190 doesn't seems to have as much HP as other excavators in that size class. Would it still have to same power and capabilities? I'm really surprised that other manufactuers haven't picked up on this idea.

9420pullpan · Dec 6, 2006

i sat in this machine at the conexpo the cab was very comfortable alot of room. the sales rep said they put bigger drive motors on them to make them push more etc... and the track shoes are rolled to improve turning....

NHDealer · Dec 6, 2006

The pushing power of these units is incredible, Mainly due to its weight. The clipped shoes do help in turns. If im not mistaken the drive motors are the same as what they currently use on the Dozer but I will have to check that. They arent the fastest "grading" maching, but do have an increasing market, mainly in the forestry industry. Cat already has a unit in the works overseas. I have some literature on it but its all in Japanese.

CascadeScaper · Dec 7, 2006

Bladerunner's are awesome, but super expensive.

MVFD · Dec 7, 2006

NHDealer said:
The pushing power of these units is incredible, Mainly due to its weight. The clipped shoes do help in turns. If im not mistaken the drive motors are the same as what they currently use on the Dozer but I will have to check that. They arent the fastest "grading" maching, but do have an increasing market, mainly in the forestry industry. Cat already has a unit in the works overseas. I have some literature on it but its all in Japanese.

I dont think that machine would be very good in the forestry market. atleast not around here.

Its not only to small, but would get hung up all the time on the terrian here.

plus the smallest machine in the feild for forestry around here is a 300 high walker. (most times)

I have seen the balde runner used more around here for doing service work in new subdivisions plus road building. and also one was used to grade a soccer feild out here as well. did a very nice job to

CascadeScaper · Dec 7, 2006

A 300 in the woods? Wait 'til Ford LT gets on here, he'll tell you the biggest they'll run in the woods is 200's. If you're full on logging, I can see how a 300 would be great for busting road and loading trucks. But if you're just a general excavation company who happens to do some light logging/clearing and roadbuilding, the BladeRunner would be awesome.

Tommjr · Dec 7, 2006

When I was at ConEx, I thought the sales rep told me that the ED150 had the same under carriage as the SK210, and the upper carriage as the SK130.

The ED190 was the same under carriage as the Sk250, and the upper carriage of the SK210.

I could be wrong.

I have used the ED150, I thought it was a good machine, however, the moment you start on slope for minor gradework or backfill, especially in a tighter area, you MUST be aware of boom and stick location:bouncegri

MVFD · Dec 8, 2006

CascadeScaper said:
A 300 in the woods? Wait 'til Ford LT gets on here, he'll tell you the biggest they'll run in the woods is 200's. If you're full on logging, I can see how a 300 would be great for busting road and loading trucks. But if you're just a general excavation company who happens to do some light logging/clearing and roadbuilding, the BladeRunner would be awesome.

well the last time I was in the bush, the smallest machine was a 300.
the only time I have seen a 200 out there, was ditching the road.

Logging has been apart of my family since my great grandfather.

But they dont even use excavators for logging here on the island, all they do is push roads in, and assist the cable graple yarder. now it is very common to see madill equipment. They use 300's all the way up to 450's atleast in the area im from, the regs may be different where Ford LT is either because of ground conditions or some other condition, I do remember him talking about that tho.

Ford LT-9000 · Dec 8, 2006

In the bush 350s are usually the largest machine used a 200 size machine is too small. The forestry regs says you can't build a road a certain width apart usually 400-450 sized machines are too big for forestrys new rules.

Excavators are used in the bush for everything if they are combination machines then they are hoe chucking. Log loaders in the 300 size are hoe chucking, skidding isn't done much and in the steep areas grapple yarding is used. Wood is chucked to the side of the road and the self-loading logging trucks haul the wood to the dump.

MVFD · Dec 8, 2006

Wow that is a very different setup compared to the logging here on the island.

I just came out of the bush a few weeks ago, and 450's were building roads and pushing around blast rock.

the trucks around here dont load themselves, their is a log loader that handles that part, after the graple yarder has moved out, or further down.
The hot saws will usualy cut the trees down before the graple yarder, but if the terrian gets to steep, they call in the fallers.

One of the 450's had a hydralic quick exchange and was up on one of the clear cuts fixing a road, he was probly up about 1500 feet and as he swung out over the slope his bucket let go and rolled all the way down in the trees below. they ended up calling in a helicopter to come pick up the bucket as there was no other way to get it. they also do alot of heli-logging as well.

Scott_527 · Dec 8, 2006

When you say 450s you mean Hitachis right? Thats one of the only 45 tonne machines I've seen dressed up for woods work. Never seem to come across any big 45t Cats or Komatsus with the woods gear on em. T-Mar used to build some nice Kobelco roadbuilders in the 40+ tonne range (sk400 - 480), ever see any of those around?

murray83 · Dec 8, 2006

I've seen a 450 deere at woodlands in Sussex for a try out all dressed up in woods gear but it never stayed very long was a week or 2 last fall if memory serves me well

,they went with the 330.

I swear I've seen a blade runner here in this area on a float but it was only once out in Quispam but I could be wrong and mistaked it for a 115 Kobelco none the less they are nice for residential new home excavation.

Ford LT-9000 · Dec 8, 2006

The reason why self loading logging trucks are used is the trucks can load and go there is no need to have a operator and a log loader loading trucks when it can be hoe chucking.

John Deere is really trying to sell themselves out here so they are the most popular machine around along with Hitachi.

Back to the blade runner I looked at the pictures that sucker has a decent size blade on it. The machine would be good for doing utility work you can dig the trench and backfill with the blade. It would also be good for doing residential driveways.

Wulf · Dec 8, 2006

Nice looking machine but I'm a bit skeptical about Kobelco's claim (according to their website) that the bladerunner is a 2 in 1 machine and can replace a dozer. I bet it makes for a fine excavator but for dozing with the fold-away blade it could be OK for cleaning up a bit, maybe 5% of its time but pretty impractical for anything but residential jobs. Also even though the tracks are SALT type, the undecarriage wear would be pretty dramatic especially in the woods.

CascadeScaper · Dec 9, 2006

That machine would replace a D3 on residential jobs, no doubt in my mind.

Wulf · Dec 9, 2006

CascadeScaper said:
That machine would replace a D3 on residential jobs, no doubt in my mind.

I hear you on that for minor work but the D3 comes with conventional single grouser shoes and doesn't need rounded shoes with mini grousers to help it get around.

Scott_527 · Dec 9, 2006

Hey Murray, was that 450 done up as a roadbuilder or a processor? 450 is a huge overkill for our woods, so is a 330 really but i know that Irving does have a couple of Cat 330 roadbuilders. Most of Irvings excavators/ processors are Cat so are thier dozers. They seem to favor deere for skidders, forwarders and feller bunchers though. I was by the Sussex woodlands division in the spring and they had 2 nice D6Rs with the angle blades, winches and woods gaurding and also a D7R done up the same way :notworthy .
That bladerunner that you saw around here, did you see it at a Irving gas station? I saw an ED 150 at the truck stop just before you cross the NB/NS border and also at the blue canoe in welsford.
Here's a nice ED 180 that was for sale in BC a couple of years ago.

murray83 · Dec 9, 2006

Yeah it was being hauled on a tag along near Pennfield,I orgionaly seen it at the Dolon Road Irving and haven't seen it since.

The 450C was done up as a roadbuilder from Ontario as a try out cab guards,thumb,GPS and a few other extra nice gadgets but they sent it back and purchased a 330 deere.From my memory Irving has umm 2 6's and 2 7's,2 cat 330BL's and a deere 330C short stick and thumb and cab guarding and a couple 140 cat graders.We had it at Gulf in the refinery last winter on loan when woodlands almost went belly up,she had 300 hours on her back then and it returned to Sussex to be run by some 18 year old who ripped the thumb off,scratched up all the paint and dented her up pretty bad

wish I snapped a pic of it before the slow death its being given in the woods by Irving.They seem to give the new gear to the kids to destroy and give the beat up crap to the vets who can manage to keep them in order

Spring time I may try out for a position with woodlands I wouldn't mind running a dozer or 330 maybe even attempt to get on a 140 grader :bouncegri

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