CTL sales

The man runs Bobcat CTL's nothing could ride harder than them surely?? All pilots are a little slower than direct linkage( some worse than others) but i still couldn't go back to levers and foot controls. working in steep country is murder on your body.

im in the market to buy a skid steer. and im geting info from yall. whats your opinon on the asv's the 100 model. or maybe the deere 332. or bobcat 300. i need info also new to the forms thanks for everything.

therealjohnboy said:

The man runs Bobcat CTL's nothing could ride harder than them surely?? All pilots are a little slower than direct linkage( some worse than others) but i still couldn't go back to levers and foot controls. working in steep country is murder on your body.

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Apparently you haven't been one of the Bobcat CTL's with the leaf suspension. Makes a huge improvement in ride quality.

bjs, I would probably go test drive the bobcat and the deere and just see which you like better. ASV is the worst machine on the market as far as I'm concerned, if you plan on using your machine in soil that has some rocks... stay away. Anytime someone try's to tell me I should buy an ASV I just tell them I need to be able to spin in pit run and they leave me alone.

As far as my original question I ended up asking my bobcat dealer. He didn't have the exact numbers but bobcat is still around 45% for skid steers and he said they are #1 in CTL's, but that's more around 35%. Either way I'll be getting a Bobcat with their new suspension for my next buy since nothing else has really impressed me. Couldn't even find a Takeuchi dealer in my area.

ok thanks. but sense i dont know much yet. what is a ctl and spin in pit run?

Pit run sand is just un-screened sand that has large rocks in it. When you spin the rocks get into the tracks and make an awful racket, sometimes we even have to stop and get them out or risk losing a track. It isn't good for any machine but sometimes we have no choice. We have actually used one of our Bobcat's to load a rented ASV with less than 100 hours because they were back-filling trenches with pit run and the rocks chewed up the undercarriage.

Ctl is just short for compact track loader.

"As far as my original question I ended up asking my bobcat dealer. He didn't have the exact numbers but bobcat is still around 45% for skid steers and he said they are #1 in CTL's, but that's more around 35%."

I think they're a little optimistic. The 08 numbers I saw put them at 34% on skids and 33% on CTL's. Still at the top of each, but losing ground every year.

440chevy said:

Just curious, I've been looking to branch out from bobcat latley. But, I realize now that bobcat builds a one of a kind. Only other company I found that could get me foot controls was Deere, and I wasn't all that impressed with their machines.

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Ever look at a Mustang or Gehl machine? They've had "foot controls" for years and years.

440chevy said:

Apparently you haven't been one of the Bobcat CTL's with the leaf suspension. Makes a huge improvement in ride quality.

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You're kidding right?:lmao I'll give bobcat credit for not thinking too long or too hard on a way to offer suspension. You can't get much more original than a leaf spring set up that only allows the mid wheels to move about 1/2" and provides nothing for the front or rear where the main impact points are.

The front and rear are still solid to the machine and it still beats the heck out of you if you have any decent amount of weight in the bucket. You also lose almost 1200lbs off of the tipping load even though the T320 with the suspension weighs 600lbs more than the solid undercarriage. The ROC @ 35% of tipping load goes from 3200lbs on the solid undercarriage to 2800lbs with the suspension and you lose over 550lbs off of the ROC at 50% of the tipping load.

The Mustang and Gehl are a repainted version of the Tak. I could be wrong, but as far as I know, foot controls aren't an option.

bonanno23 said:

The Mustang and Gehl are a repainted version of the Tak. I could be wrong, but as far as I know, foot controls aren't an option.

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You are 100% correct. I was pointing out just one brand that offered foot controls. If 440chevy was referring just to CTLs I think that New Holland still offers them along with the JDs that he mentioned.