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Dozer Blades on Skidsteers?

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Shifty said:
Hi all
I am new to this forum This looks like a subject I could have some useful input on.
I have 277B with a 6 way blade. Which at first I wouldn't have given two cents for. But after getting some hours on it, it works pretty darn good.
First if you have run dozer before FORGET what you have learned. The principle is the same but thats all.
Second mistake that I made was I was running the 277 to fast.You are a BULLDOZER NOW. A D3 goes slow for 2 reason 1st is power and the 2nd is control. I run my 277 at 1/3 to 1/2 throttle and I can still spin the tracks.
Third is that CTL or CL in general do not have the strength in the main boom to prevent the corners of the blade from gouging in like a heavy C frame of a dozer does.
Fourth you can change the angle of the blade to the ground and with skid shoes on you can control blade diving and depth of cut per pass.
I now can move 3 to 4 times the material I could with the bucket in the same time. The hardest thing for me is slowing down to run the blade correctly. I am so used to running like a skid steer I go to fast and screwup the grade. I' ve cut shale, hard clay, soddy topsoil with good results. They do have their limits like you can't rock a road with them and do deep trenching with the corners of the blade.
The biggest drawback the dozer/ CTL combo has is the learning curve they have. Once people get pass that there will be a lot of 450s and D3s fearing for their jobs. IMO
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I could have not put it better myself. I bought mine and used it once or twice. Then winter came. I put about 300 hours on that blade and became quite good on it. I have a 8' bradco (heavy duty) on a tl150. Now we use it all the time on little jobs where it wont pay to haul a dozer in. :cool:
 
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Hi ..


Here is our 277B 6-way blade and an laser grading system. And the new 279C.

It´s a fine machine.


Bytec
 

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Bytec said:
Hi ..


Here is our 277B 6-way blade and an laser grading system. And the new 279C.

It´s a fine machine.


Bytec
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Does that laser system control the blade's hydraulics or do you interpret the signals from the senors and follow the beam??

What brand of system is it??

Price??
 
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Shifty said:
Does that laser system control the blade's hydraulics or do you interpret the signals from the senors and follow the beam??

What brand of system is it??

Price??
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The system control the blade´s tilt function and the main hydraulic lift function of the Cat 279C.

We got the system from Apache Technologies Germany.

http://www.apache-laser.com

The system is about 15000€

Bytec
 
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i bought my first skid steer in 79 i graded golf course green & traps, dug foundations 8' spread blacktop, plowed snow, swales, berms 2/1 slope, concrete removal, boulder walls, tree removal & planting, loaded semi's all with a 72" bucket you have to learn what you can do with a skid steer.
still learning
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All these guy's have good points. I own a 863 Bobcat and use it for every thing. I own a dozer blade and love it but it took a couple days to learn how to cut and fill with it. but i have made many different attachments for my machine and one thing i use in hard clay is a boxblade with ripper teeth to tear up the soil then i would move it with a bucket to its location and grade with a blade. I know these items add up but if you are going to be in buisness excavating it would be smart to buy the small attachments that will fit multiple machines. Good luck in buisness.
 
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My buddy bought the Quick attache 6 way angle blade with the front wheel and wing kits. This way it acts more like a grader. He says that he has got a lot better with it but found that he can only take light cuts. He uses it with his Cat 287B. Has anyone used the ATI box scaper with the laser kit?
 
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I take it you would have to also fit an electro solenoid valve to divert oil from the 4in1 bucket clam lines for the tilt function of the blade ?
 
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That is what I just did, put a dozer blade on my 953C it has the quick attach to change back and forth with the bucket is a snap. It works excellent.
bobcat ron said:
I have personally seen a T300 Bobcrap go at it with a new 6 way blade, biggest joke I ever saw, you can move material faster with less fuel with just the bucket.

If I had it my way, I'd get me a 953 or Deere Tracked loader with a quick coupler that I could swap out from the bucket to a blade.
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I have a Cat blade I don,t know who builds the blade its self, but it is designed by Cat. It is tough and strong. actually stronger than the machines boom is. I have a 277B. There is a learning curve to run a blade but once you got it you,ll bury anyone with a bucket. I have even modified the blade tilt to float the same as the boom float does. [Great for snowplowing]
 
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We are a Takeuchi dealer and a Paladin dealer as well and i have used a Bradco blade on the TL 250 and it is like a D3 dozer Works great. They make it in 84 and 96 inches.
 
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