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Snorkel 120 lift computer???

Top Dog

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We heard from Snorkel factory today, the black boxes we sent them last week turned out they were good so when we get them back we will call the factory tech's and try to find out what is wrong with this thing. The shop that worked on it will hear from me this week.
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John C. and ATCOEQUIP
We heard from Snorkel factory today, the black boxes we sent them last week turned out they were good so when we get them back we will call the factory tech's and try to find out what is wrong with this thing. The shop that worked on it will hear from me this week.
Thanks again


Man that's great news!!!! Pass on what the machine model and serial number is, and year model (if possible). I'd like to do a little research on the machine, no charge of course! ;)
 

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Thanks for the update and good luck on the repair!
 

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ATCOEQUIP, Ill get you the model and serial #s and the year, any help would be great.
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ATCOEQUIP, The serial # 09105390592 the model TB120CU it is a 1992 model. We got the boxes back today, will install them Monday and call Snorkel to see if we can find out what is wrong. If you find anything with these #s let me know.
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I've worked on several of the tb120's. The EMS system is a pain. But I will say I have never seen one of the ems boxes go bad. Every lift problem I've had has been because of a limit/safety sw. The TB 120 will not let you go above a certain height or extend the boom unless the axle is extended and the lock pin is reinserted in the hole. You can not fully extend the boom unless you raise it past a certain height. So there for, you can not come down unless the boom retracts. Usually it's automatically. If not, the EMS will squak and you boom in, then down. As stated, you operate within a very tight envelope of height vs extension. If it were me, I would be looking at the telescope limit sw, of which I think there are 2 and they are on the left side of boom, if you standing in the basket. They are mounted to a chessey bracket that is easily bent. Lil boxes, 2 inches top to bottom, 3 to 4 inches long, lil roller on end of arm. It may be sensing that the boom is too far extened and wont let you come down, but it will let you go up. Some had an EMS overide on the ground side controls just in case of emergency. These older 120's and such were old school man killers that were retrofitted with every safety sw known to man using the technology of the day! The new booms are soooo much easier.
 

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Xcopterdoc,
We have got the black boxes on it just have not had time to work on it might get to do some work on it tomorrow, you could be right one of the switches you are referring to has a broken wheel. You would have thought the shop that had it would have checked it....Sorry, this is the same shop that said it would cost 30 to 40k to fix. I feel better about this already, knowing it has to be something simple.
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Xcopterdoc,
We have got the black boxes on it just have not had time to work on it might get to do some work on it tomorrow, you could be right one of the switches you are referring to has a broken wheel. You would have thought the shop that had it would have checked it....Sorry, this is the same shop that said it would cost 30 to 40k to fix. I feel better about this already, knowing it has to be something simple.
Thanks Again

When you get around to working it, give us a good detailed description of what it does, from basket controls as well as lower controls. The more detail you give makes it easier to figure out what's causing your problems. ;)
 

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I have performed the updates on two of these machines.
The customers bill was 22,000 dollars. Our cost on the parts were 11,000 dollars.
It took about one week per machine for the retro fits.
I have some used angle sensors, string pots, primary and secondary computers, and lower junction boxes that are still fully assembled if you happen to need anything.

Bobby
 

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I have performed the updates on two of these machines.
The customers bill was 22,000 dollars. Our cost on the parts were 11,000 dollars.
It took about one week per machine for the retro fits.
I have some used angle sensors, string pots, primary and secondary computers, and lower junction boxes that are still fully assembled if you happen to need anything.

Bobby

Thanks Allstock
We have got it running with help from this forum, It had some wiring problems and some grounding problems. I think it had 1 limit swich bad, but the good thing is Christmas lights will go up this year without spending that kind of money. I will keep in mind the parts you have.
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Top Dog
 

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I have performed the updates on two of these machines.
The customers bill was 22,000 dollars. Our cost on the parts were 11,000 dollars.
It took about one week per machine for the retro fits.
I have some used angle sensors, string pots, primary and secondary computers, and lower junction boxes that are still fully assembled if you happen to need anything.

Bobby

I am looking for an "angle sensor transducer" for a Snorkelift 126 Pro manufactured in late 1998. The 28 inch long aluminum housing seized and severely bent when the machine was being lowered. I see that Allstock has used parts and would like to discuss availabilty and price. Please advise how I may contact him. Thanks/
 

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I am looking for an "angle sensor transducer" for a Snorkelift 126 Pro manufactured in late 1998. The 28 inch long aluminum housing seized and severely bent when the machine was being lowered. I see that Allstock has used parts and would like to discuss availabilty and price. Please advise how I may contact him. Thanks/

Welcome to the forum johmur. :usa

You should try calling Snorkel and get a price from them. Also, they have a program going for the PRO126 about machine inspections. If you fill out an inspection form they provide you, they give you a $50 credit for doing the inspection. That 50 buck credit might help you in getting a new transducer from them. In either case, getting the transducer from Snorkel or from other supplier, you'll have to calibrate the control unit to accept new transducer. You really need the calibration harness from Snorkel to do this. They will provide you with the instructions for calibration, but you have to buy the calibration harness.
 

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Thankyou very much. I checked with Snorkel and they wanted well over a thousand dollars. Will need the calibration harness; but want to check with "Upright" etc first. The "Upright" company in California apparently sells the same machines only painted a different color. The parts books; operators manuals etc. from "Upright" look identical except the different name brand.
Sure wish I could find the linear transducer original manufacturer. There are lots of OEM manufacturers; but getting a 28 inch stroke one with apparently a 28 K resistance will be a tall order. Second hand might be another option.
 

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Please excuse this post. I've heard that you have to have three postings to get full access to this forum. If so this is not wasting bandwidth.
 

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Please excuse this post. I've heard that you have to have three postings to get full access to this forum. If so this is not wasting bandwidth.


No worries johmur. It's your thread. No problem posting to get your three posts in. :)

I haven't replaced one of those transducers, doesn't surprise me they are expensive. Maybe if you keep searching the internet, you might stumble on a supplier for a replacement. After all, I doubt Snorkel made that transducer, they got it from somebody. I just don't have a clue who to go to for something like that. If you do finally find one, you will have to re-calibrate the machine and you will need that harness to do that. Good luck.
 

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The linear position sensor(s) are made by Penny-Giles (UK). Their model number for the Pro 126 is SLS320/0700/C/66/01/N . Which is their model SLS320, with a 700mm electrical stroke, compact shaft design, IP66 sealing, no cable socket, no protective sleeve. Maybe this will help you.
 

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Hello, do you still have any parts for the snorkel pro 126? If so can you let me know . Thanks....
 
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