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digger242j

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Well, having seen what a brickie or carpenter will do to a site in a telehandler(especially at this time of the year when things never dry out--they just run around everywhere, making ruts and puddles, that get deeper and muddier up until around June, and they just destroy things like catch basins and water boxes... :rolleyes:), I have to say that there's one thing I like about telehandlers--That there aren't more of them. ;)
 

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Im with you on that one Digger. My favorite telehandler incident is follows. We just finished pipe work, and were around the corner starting to do grading work. I happend to walk around the corner to check grade stakes where i watched a carpenter back his lull into one of our fire hydrants. Now it was leaning something like this /. Well instead of telling anyone, he drove around the hydrant, and using he fork carriage, he returned it to straight up and down with a nice "gentle" shove. The foreman was rather happy to know who to send the bill to when we had to dig that hydrant up and fix it.
 

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Well, having seen what a brickie or carpenter will do to a site in a telehandler(especially at this time of the year when things never dry out--they just run around everywhere, making ruts and puddles, that get deeper and muddier up until around June, and they just destroy things like catch basins and water boxes... :rolleyes:), I have to say that there's one thing I like about telehandlers--That there aren't more of them. ;)

can't get caught resting when they need material. If your in a hoe you can just sit and relax:)
 

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I'm the last one to advocate resting when you're on the clock. And I do understand the need to get the material where it's needed by the other trades. I just hate the way they can tear the site up, and they really have no means of fixing it. At least most earthmoving types of equipment have some way of dressing things up at the end of the day, and most operators of those types understand the advantages of doing so.

I won't tar all telehandler operators with the same brush, but I will say that there are some among them who clearly don't give a darn...
 

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Well, having seen what a brickie or carpenter will do to a site in a telehandler(especially at this time of the year when things never dry out--they just run around everywhere, making ruts and puddles, that get deeper and muddier up until around June, and they just destroy things like catch basins and water boxes... :rolleyes:), I have to say that there's one thing I like about telehandlers--That there aren't more of them. ;)

Hey Digger, sounds like all is well back at the ranch. Do you have a photograghic documentation of mentioned mishaps perhaps?
 

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Hey Digger, sounds like all is well back at the ranch. Do you have a photograghic documentation of mentioned mishaps perhaps?

The outfit that were the real villians haven't been around for quite a while. I did take some cellphone pictures at one point, but they weren't good quality, and I never really needed them, so they're gone. :beatsme

(But I have a long memory for some things...) :cool2
 

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site should be prepared. I have been on sites up to the hubs in mud. I have no clue how it even kept moving. Came out of a condo once and the front of the machine was gone way way down near the foundation. The only way I got out was to push of the foundation wall.
 

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Yea Speedpup I agree with you the site should be prepared ! ! Some sites are abismal & many times I've have been on sites with the mud problem or the other problem that comes up alot ( well here in Northern Ireland ) anyway is the badly made site roads, come on all you excavator drivers tracking your machine ( with them tracks designed to spread the weight instead of compacting the ground to much ) 4 or 5 times over the stones you levelled out for the road IS NOT going to compact it enough for a heavy telehandler to drive on or jack on especially one that weighs over 17 tonne & is currently placing most of its loads up around the 22-23 metre ( 75 ft level, although thankfully the building is nearlly topped out ) Or my other particular annoyance is foremen getting stuff tipped in stupid places or other drivers parking in stupid places, blocking access to stuff or just generally in the way for lifts. On the site Im currently on one of the drivers seems to bust block packs/pallets etc slewing/moving his machine, what makes it worse is that any time I set them near him he is asked 'is that OK there is isn't or going to be in your way' & if so its moved to somewhere we both agree on although when the stuff gets damaged it was because he couldn't see it ( with all the mirrors & cameras on the machine to see round it ? ) or just 'didn't know it was there'. Incidently in the best incident I've ever seen involving any machine he ripped a 33000V main supply cable out of an electrical transformer a couple of years ago in a flash of sparks & flames & blacking out two local towns, a few villages & quite a few houses, all because he got impatient, breached company policy & broke ground before the ground was scanned & marked. But being a company 'yes man' & having familly contacts high up in the company he kept his job while the junior site engineer (who was on the way to him with the cable plan & marker paint) was sacked ! ! His excuse for the incident was that he didn't think the cable would be on that side of the box ! !

Speedpup what sort of machine are you driving ?

Bryan
 
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Hi Bryan I run Lulls a 1992 1044B and three Lull 844's. what are you running 75' high Manitou? How do you see up there?:eek: camera or radio? Parents were from Ballymoney one Catholic and one Protestant. :Banghead:bash :D In fact all my relatives were born there except me. :beatsme What are you building? Are things busy there?:drinkup
 

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Hiya, yea its a Manitou MRT2540 Privilege, a big step up from the Manitou MT1740 SLT I was on. It has a camera on the boom but its worse than useless. For the high (or awkward) lifts I usually set the machine on the jacks, switch it over to radio control then climb up to were the load is going & use it - far handier then relying on signalls from someone else & I can see exactly were they want the load at. The company I work for also has another older MRT2540M & 1 MT1840, 2 MT1740s & 2 MT1337 'rigid' Manitou Telehandlers. I think the next slewing telehandler will be a Merlo 25 metre machine though, they had one on demo a couple of weeks ago & both us slewing drivers have gave it a BIG thumbs up :thumbsup Far more compact on site. Wouldn't mind a go on a Lull, have a brochure from JLG on them & the sliding boom looks to be a good handy job although they aren't available over here. What are they like to drive?

We are putting up a six storey office block at the minute. Generally the construction industry has slumped badly especially the housing sector but the company seems to be OK as they do alot of civil engineering work aswell as some housing sites, which was the main reason the bigger slewing telehandlers were purchased as they replace cranes on the smaller civils sites but occasionally they also get used on housing sites (brilliant job for timber frames - set up on jacks & just slew to get everything), the one I'm on came new to a housing site & was replaced by the older machine when the current job started.

I know Ballymoney well (well the bars!!) its about 8 miles up the road from me.

Bryan
 
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